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Mazda Miata: Do you use snow tires on your car?

  1. #11
    Leon
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    Re: Do you use snow tires on your car?

    Scott Streeter <wpi.edu> wrote:
     

    You disagree with Iva, who says it takes 15 minutes, including
    washing up. But even half an hour seems somewhat short to me
    if you do not have a car lift. It is finding and later storing
    the socket, wrench, torque wrench, jack. Jacking the car up
    twice or more, jacking it down twice or more. Unscrewing
    16 nuts. Screwing in and torqueing 16 nuts. That is a lot
    of nuts. Getting a rubber hammer to try to get the wheels off.
    Getting one kind of wheels out of storage, storing the other
    kind. Maybe finding and applying band-aids, cleaning the
    wounds first. Searching for and applying a breaker bar to
    get the nuts off that some shop tightened. Maybe finding
    and applying touch-up paint where the wrench slipped.

    Gee, the more I think about it, the more it seems a full
    weekend job. And that is assuming nothing serious goes wrong
    like you discovering that you forgot to untighten the nuts
    with the wheels on the ground, and trying to apply the brute-
    force correction method with the car perched atop a jack.

    As far as Iva is concerned, I strongly suspect her method must
    be:
    "Dear, can you please put the snow tires on my Miata."
    [Disappears to start washing up.]

    Leon
     

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    To reply to me, the word Miata must be in the subject.
    EXIT THE INTERSTATES (Jamie Jensen)

  2. #12
    Nora
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    Re: Do you use snow tires on your car?

    net (Leon van Dommelen) wrote in message news:<com>... 

    :LOL: I really enjoy Leon's perfectly composed works of fiction :-)

    Iva is right. It takes about 1/2 hour, even in a blinding snowstorm
    with ice under the car. If it's done March and December, the wheels
    don't have enough time become so attached to the hub as to need a
    mallet.

    The car needs jacking only twice. Use a 2x4 with a longtitudinal
    groove, fit it over the side weld strip and jack in the middle with a
    hydraulic floor jack. You can do both wheels on one side, no problem.

    Likewise with the nuts. They don't get a chance to need a breaker-bar
    unless you're doing it WAY wrong or using an air hammer. A slipping
    wrench requiring application of touch-up paint hasn't happened to me
    in 4 years and 8 wheel changes.

    A Miata in winter needs 4 GOOD snow tires. And then the fun starts...

    Nora (imagine a Canadian flag here)
    ========================
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  3. #13
    Leon
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    Re: Do you use snow tires on your car?

    mcgill.ca (Nora) wrote:
     

    I am glad to see that you can post again, I guess.
     

    Unfortunately, Iva claimed it takes

    (15 minutes) - (washing up) = (less than 15 minutes)
     

    You do not mean "even", but "only" I assume. In a blinding
    snow storm, you might be crazy enough to actually lift up a
    corner of the car with your left hand, swapping the wheel with
    your right, out of sheer panic.
     

    Something not right with your brute-force technique or with the shops
    you use.
     

    Leon

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    Leon van Dommelen Bozo, the White 96 Sebring Miata .)
    To reply to me, the word Miata must be in the subject.
    EXIT THE INTERSTATES (Jamie Jensen)

  4. #14
    Iva
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    Re: Do you use snow tires on your car?

    Leon van Dommelen wrote: 

    Leon, I have only one thing to say ;-p~~~~~~~~~

    Jack her up like Nora says, air gun those nuts off, slip off the
    summer shoes, slip on the winter shoes, air gun those nuts back
    on. Repeat for second side. Check with torque wrench. Adjust
    as necessary. Wash hands.

    Husband walks in and says, as I'm drying my hands, "Do you want
    me to swap the tires for you?"

    ;-p~~~~~~ <g>

    Iva & Belle.)
    '90B Classic Red.)
    #3 winkin' Miata



  5. #15
    Nora
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    Re: Do you use snow tires on your car?

    "Iva" <net> wrote in message news:<net>... 
    (snip) 

    Well actually, I never use an air gun cuz it's too rough and
    impersonal. But it's still a 15-20min job.

    Yup Leo, I can post again. "Read it and weep" *SE-GRIN*

    Nora (imagine a Canadian flag here)
    ========================
    and The Rollerskate (imagine a '99 silver Miata here, GONE)

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  6. #16
    Iva
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    Re: Do you use snow tires on your car?

    Nora wrote: 

    Hubby bought new toys and I get to use them. Besides it's easier to get
    the lugnuts off with the air gun than to try to manhandle (womanhandle?)
    them off.

    Iva & Belle.)
    '90B Classic Red.)
    #3 winkin' Miata



  7. #17
    Per
    Guest

    Re: Do you use snow tires on your car?

    On Tue, 22 Jun 2004 22:29:03 -0400, "Iva" <net> wrote:
     

    Ya'know even being an inexperienced Miata guy, I'd still loosen the
    nuts before cheicking them. Otherwise I'd just check that they where
    on tight enough - not loose enough... Am I wrong? Someone experienced
    plece chip in...

  8. #18
    Leon
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    Re: Do you use snow tires on your car?

    Per K. Nielsen <dk.invalid> wrote:
     

    You are absolutely right. Overtorqued nuts can be a nuisance on
    the side of the road. Who knows whether the air gun was set to
    the right torque and kept its setting?

    Or whether it was torqued enough to cause plastic deformation?
    Potentially causing a *fatal* accident?

    And the nuts should be loosened before the car is jacked up too.
    Anything else is unsafe.

    Then it probably takes about 30 minutes to get out the air tools,
    and prepare them for use, and later store them again.

    It is obvious that Iva, while watching hubby, must have counted
    time from the moment he took the first wheel off to when he put
    the last wheel on.

    Just setting the record straight,
    Leon
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    Leon van Dommelen Bozo, the White 96 Sebring Miata ,)
    To reply to me, the word Miata must be in the subject.
    EXIT THE INTERSTATES (Jamie Jensen)



 

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