Ford Explorer: Did I stump you all ? ? ?

Hmm... interesting.

I have what sounds like the SAME problem with one of my Exp's.. I have
never noticed if the OD off light works when lights are on, (and it's 2wd,
so the other light doesn't matter)

The other thing that I notice about it is the radio display is FULL
BRIGHTNESS like it is supposed to be when the lights are OFF.

Mine started out by "flickering" occasionally... the radio display would go
FULL BRIGHT for a 1/2 second.. it did that for a month or so, and now it's
that way all the time.

I've always meant to go hunting, but never get around to it. Maybe I'll
break out the wiring diags and try to figger out whuts sup!

(or Jim W could just TELL us what the problem is for cripes sake )


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Chief Wiggun.....
My Exp started out with the exact problem as well. The radio display is
full on all the time now as is the directional & temp indicator in the upper
console.

I've looked in my Hayes manual. It appears the O/D indicator, 4x indicator
& cruise control indicator are all on the same instrument cluster circuit.
The diagram also shows a 'dimmer relay' in the relay module. I *suspect*
this might be the culprit. I can not, however, find the dimmer relay
anywhere else in the Hayes manual.

The Ford manual indicates the dimmer relay is part of 'Instrument relay
panel module #4'. The manual simply uses a fat pointer to indicate it's
location somewhere near the driver side wiper. I've checked the firewall on
the engine side & can not find it - although there's a bunch of stuff
there.....In order to check the interior, I suspect I'll have to rip up the
dash which I would hate to do.....

Does anyone know where the dimmer relay module is located on a 96 Exp ???


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On Tue, 07 Oct 2003 15:43:43 GMT, "John B. Parisi"
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A long shot...
Since the lights are all onthe same circuit, there's a possibility
that a bad ground could be causing the problem you describe.
Like I said, a long shot...

--
Bill
Replace "g" with "a"
Experience is what you get when you expected something else.

Okay, tonight I paid closer attention and you're right, the Cruise, and O/D
off lights don't work IF the lights are on !

Hmmmm....

Okay, now I'm even more curious! I didn't worry about it much since we
rarely drive at night, and it's my wifes ride, so I forget about the problem
!


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Okay, you were definately on the RIGHT track !

I located the Dimmer relay, and removed it from my working Explorer, and the
EXACT same symptons appeared !

but the bad news is, I put THAT relay into my other explorer, and it didn't
solve the problem ...

FWIW the relay module is located behind the temp control panel in the center
of the dash. If you get on your knees and look under the driver's side, in
the center, you'll see a plastic box, with SNAP catches on it. it's about
3" wide, and 4" tall. Pull the top and bottom catch loose, and remove the
cover.

The DIMMER relay is the SECOND relay from the top, on the right hand column.
I also found that the second relay down on the LEFT side can cause the same
symptoms, because they are in series..

But like I said, mine is still a problem. The difference between my 2
explorers is that the one that is BROKE has the auto-headlamps, while the
other one is straight manual.

I'm thinking my problem may be in the auto module or something... Still
lookin!







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