BMW: Dealer Overfills Engine With Oil! Help!
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Dealer Overfills Engine With Oil! Help!
I need some help from fellow car ethusiasts My car is a high performance
Volvo wagon, but the problem is generic to all car owners - I need a quick
answer and thought someone could help. This message is also on the Volvo
newsgroup.
I own a 2000 V70 R. I live in Toronto, Canada. I just took it into the
dealer for the 72kms service, as well as to correct a rough start when cold
problem and a few other items to get done before the warranty runs out at
80,000 kms. They claimed the 48,000 kms service had not been done (I bought
the vehicle about 1 year ago), so that was done as well. New plugs, etc.
They recommended doing an Electronic Throttle Service as well as a PCV Valve
service to help correct the rough start problem, and generally bring the
vehicle to spec. So far so good. They did a few other things under
warranty.
When I drove the vehicle away from the dealer, I noticed billows of blue
smoke coming out of the exhaust after about three minutes of driving. It
also lost power and was limping along. I turned around immediately and drove
back and left the car with them. I received a phone call in about an hour to
tell me they discovered that the car was overfilled with oil due to bad
calibration of the nozzle that measure out oil from drums for oil changes
and that everything was ok now.
Question to you all - can the vehicle "be ok now" as they claim? The loss of
power when I was driving must mean that it was forcing oil into all kinds of
places where oil shouldn't be - seals, gaskets, etc. How about the turbo?
They also must have road tested it, so the condition could have existed
beyond the driving I did.
Should I insist they rebuild the engine? Should I ask for a new engine?
Should I cry? Please help me to prepare for the conversation I'm about to
have with them tomorrow. I have their loaner for now.
Thanks,
Henry
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Re: Dealer Overfills Engine With Oil! Help!
Trade it in on a BMW. That is why you posted here, right?
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I'm curious what overfilled oil does to a car too.
-Adam
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On Tue, 02 Sep 2003 15:40:19 GMT, "mc" <com> wrote:
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What does happen when an engine is overfilled with oil?
The $64K question at first is "by how much". If we are talking about a litre (2
pints (US) then not much except that the crank will probably splash about in the
oil making it aerated (bubbly) and bubbly oil is not a very good lubricant!
It will certainly get slung up the cylinders and could cause hydraulic pressure
behind the piston rings and definitely give the oil control rings a lot more
work to do. It could also get burnt onto the underside of the piston crowns but
only if left for a long period.
The inside running temperature could be less than that recommended by the makers
so there is a chance that more condensation could form and as the temperature
wouldn't get hot enough to vaporise the water in the sump one day you might pick
up water instead of oil and water is not a good lubricant either.
If we are talking " coming out the oil filler" then it probably will get
hydraulic pressure inside and either cover you in oil or cause extensive damage
if the thing actually started. If it was this full how come the "technician"
didn't realize?
In all probability no damage has been done but then you now realize you should
have bought a BMW.
Hugh
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Re: Dealer Overfills Engine With Oil! Help!
"Henry Greisman" <ca> wrote in message news:<CY_4b.3821$bellglobal.com>...
If you're posting to alt.autos.bmw, you've got to expect someone to
tell you that the phrase above is self-contradictory ...
But seriously, folks:
It can. In all likelihood, it is.
Not likely any of those places. Only up past the piston rings into
the combustion chamber where it got burned - producing your blue
smoke. I would expect them to, at the very least, replace the spark
plugs that burned it.
Not likely a problem. The exhaust side will have gotten 'oiled up' a
bit, but it'll burn off quickly and shouldn't leave much, if any,
residue as a result.
I'm guessing they *didn't* road test it - at least not after the oil
was added.
You should find out whether the car runs OK *now*. If it does, then
there's probably nothing wrong with it and I wouldn't worry about it
much. I *would* document that this occurred in case anything shows up
later.
Unless you're a stunning blonde or a gorgeous brunette or a petite
redhead, crying's not likely to get you very far. ;^) So make it
very clear that you want some documentation that a mistake was made,
that *they* made it, and that *they* will make any future engine
repairs that appear to be directly related to an oil overfill such as
this.
--
C.R. Krieger
(Done my Volvo time)
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http://www.geocities.com/five_and_1_half_inches_of_fun/gigolo.html
that will give you all the information you need
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Re: Dealer Overfills Engine With Oil! Help!
On Tue, 02 Sep 2003 14:08:37 GMT, "jim" <com> wrote:
Nice top post, "Jim". Ever consider a blank line between your post
and the one you're responding to?
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Re: Dealer Overfills Engine With Oil! Help!
no, "Dizzy."
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Shame on the dealer.
Even though the dealer claims that the oil fill calibration was out of
wack, there is no excuse for the service man not to check the oil level
using the dip stick. Let us imagine that the engine was way
under-filled. Then you would have a burnt-out engine.
What ever the problems that you may have, it is likely the dealer owes
you a new engine.
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Re: Dealer Overfills Engine With Oil! Help!
If youre not going to have them replace the engine see if they will give you
an extended warranty on the engine, 100k miles or something.
-Adam
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