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Nissan Maxima: Cooper Tires

  1. #1
    filesiteguy
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    Cooper Tires

    First off, glad to hear NissTech is alive and well. (And to think I was
    considering moving to Florida...)

    Second: It is tire time. I currently have the Bridgestone Potenza R92 tires
    on my '98. My mechanic suggested that they're okay for a little more time,
    but my wife is going to take the car with my oldest up into the mountains
    on a major road trip next week. (Couple this with the fact that I have a
    plug in the front driver tire after a screw got implanted last month while
    on a road trip to Santa Barbara.)

    He has Cooper tires on sale and can put them on +balance/align for $68 each.
    I searched around and didn't find anything negative about Coopers, except
    for one person who ran through the tread in 12,000 miles.

    Anybody see any objections?


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  2. #2
    BuddyWh
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    Re: Cooper Tires

    Cooper is an economy tire... I've known several people who've bought
    them and had good performance, decent mileage and handling even in wet
    weather.

    But then, they weren't demanding either... they just wanted reliable,
    safe, transportation at a good price. They got it.

    I'm sure there are stories of Cooper tires that have failed and worn
    out early. But there are just as many of high priced top-end tires
    doing the same (I've my own experiences). It's hard to gain any
    insight from this.

    As for me... I have no need for the high performance of an expensive
    tire, and definitely not the price. For instance... it's not too
    likely I'll EVER drive my Max at 130MPH... and even LESS likely to
    drive it "continuous" at that speed! IMO, it's just plain stupid to
    pay the price for a U or H speed rating. I think the only reason
    Nissan puts such tires on (especially the low-end GXE) is for
    liability concerns: they don't know that a driver might go out and do
    just that (and there are a lot who will) since the car is capable of
    it.

    In short: I buy tires for how and where I drive, not what the car's
    capable of. I'll consider buying Cooper, too, if the price is right.

    But if you think of tires as a style accessory for your car... well
    that shades the decision process entirely different, doesn't it.

    BuddyWh


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  3. #3
    Bitsbucket
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    Re: Cooper Tires

    I bought some KUMO tires, they are high performance and have had GREAT
    service from them. They drive as good now as they did new (rotated
    regularly) and I paid approx, 75 bucks per tire mounted and
    balanced.....It's your call but I like to use the best tires I can find for
    a good price, (price does not always indicate quality either) after all it's
    the only thing separating you from the road! I think KUMO's are good tires,
    not well known as far as I've seen, but I have been VERY satisfied with
    mine. Lot's of guys at Maxima.org use them too, that is where I found out
    about them. I had Potenza's but could not afford to buy another set of them!
    (I do not work for KUMO)
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  4. #4
    Lynn
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    Re: Cooper Tires

    filesiteguy <0.0.1> wrote in message news:<supernews.com>...
     

    The Kumho Ecsta HP4 716 are reasonably priced and rate 4 out of 5
    stars.

    Looks like a deal to me!

    http://www.tirerack.com has them for $66 each + $31.68 total, Road
    Hazard Program with four tire purchase.

    Also check out http://www.discounttire.com

    more specifically: http://www.discounttire.com/dtc/searchTiresByVehicleAndSize.do?ar=60&rd=15&rc=AZEI NT&vid=006348&cs=215&sw=false&yr=1998

    The Dunlop SP Sport A2 look like a good buy also.

    Good luck!

  5. #5
    BuddyWh
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    Re: Cooper Tires

    On 21 Aug 2004 22:12:37 -0700, com (Lynn) wrote:
     

    Tirerack have excellent tire choices... and usually at decent prices.
    But while intriguing, I've always wondered about shipping costs and
    the problem of getting someone local to mount and balance... not to
    mention disposing of the old tires. How much does this add to the
    total cost?

    Are local tire shops generally amenable to someone bringing in their
    own tires for mounting? My guess (fear??) would be they'd gouge like
    mad, since they made no profit on the tire sale and they obviously
    aren't working with a loyal customer... or one who might be.

    And finally... how does their road hazard program work since TireRack
    doesn't have a shop to take the flat to?

    A few words from some folk that have actually gone through the
    Tirerack experience would be welcome...

    BuddyWh



  6. #6
    Bitsbucket
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    Re: Cooper Tires

    I have bought several sets of tires from Tirerack and have never had a
    problem getting them mounted and balanced, belive me, they make enough on
    that alone without hasseling you about where the tires came from. Disposal
    was not enough that I even remember what it was. I have always come out
    ahead (usually over 100 bucks) of buying locally even with the added expense
    of the mounting, balancing, and disposal....Price that same tire at a local
    dealer and see what they want for it.....

    As far as road hazard, never had to file a claim so I really do not know on
    that.....
    Bitsbucket.

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  7. #7
    filesiteguy
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    Re: Cooper Tires

    BuddyWh scratched out in the sand
     

    Thanks for the advice.

    I wonder if I'll ever drive it in wet weather...

    Let's see, my '98 has 70000 miles on it and probably has driven in the rain
    less than 10 times.

     


    Low end!!!??? I didn't think there was a "low end" maxima. Anyway, I bought
    the tires, and after one day they seem to be nicer than the Potenza tires I
    had on there. They were ~$70 each mounted and balanced. They have a 50,000
    mile warranty and seven years roadhazard assistance. Seems fair enough to
    me. I pretty much stick to the freeway to and from work and generally drive
    around 80-90 most of the way, so not too fast. (Yes, I go against
    traffic.)


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  8. #8
    BuddyWh
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    Re: Cooper Tires

    On Wed, 25 Aug 2004 18:56:53 -0700, filesiteguy <0.0.1>
    wrote:
     

    It sounds like you're happy... so far at least.

    FWIW, I've gotten a little tired of chasing "value" in high priced
    tires, if such is possible. For years I've always bought quality,
    name brands and been increasingly dissapointed, especially with poor
    wet traction -- Michelin extra- especially -- as prices continuously
    creep up.

    But mainly due to performance near the end-of-life... that period when
    there is still ample tread left and it is well below expected mileage.
    From what I've read, this happens as rubber compounds used in high(er)
    performance tires change properties over time and temp. It handles
    poorly in any condition and they can become very noisy. For this, I
    pay a hefty premium!

    So, when my Rodeo needed tires a few years ago, I bought some no-name
    tire instead of a much more expensive name-brand as usual. I have no
    complaints so far... the tires probably won't last as long, but for
    about 30% less $$, I've already enough miles to make them cheaper
    "per-mile" (and getting cheaper every mile I drive). I'd agree that
    more expensive tire probably handled/performed better when new, but
    these are still good even in "end-of-life" when a more expensive tire
    would have degraded performance.

    FWIW.... I also (used to) live in a desert climate. I think having
    decent wet handling is much, MUCH more important here. Why?...
    because when it does rain NOBODY knows how to drive in it! It'd
    almost be comical... if I weren't also trying to drive in it and avoid
    them at the same time!

    BuddyWh

  9. #9
    filesiteguy
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    Re: Cooper Tires

    BuddyWh scratched out in the sand
     

    Very interesting input. I hadn't thought about things that way. In
    opposition to the maxima, I recently (May) put on some expensive
    Bridgestone H-Rated tires on my Kia minivan. I think it takes 215/70/15
    tires. I spent twice in total of what I spent with the Maxima. 

    LOL! I think I can count on one hand the number of times in the past year
    I've driven in the rain. Of course, I can completely relate to your remark.
    When I used to live in Germany, driving in the rain was not an issue, since
    it did so at least once a week for most of the spring/summer.

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  10. #10
    Codifus
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    Re: Cooper Tires

    BuddyWh wrote:
    . . . . 
    You mail bad tire to them. I've had the mis-fortune of exercising my
    road hazard warranty on several occaisions. What happens is you call
    them up and tell them about it, in my case it was
    DiscountTiredirect.com. They sell you a new tire and give you an address
    to send the old tire to. Then, when they receive the bad tire and verify
    that it failed within warranty guidlines, they refund the money you
    spent on the new replacement tire.

    By the way, I've had Kumho Ecsta 712s and found them to be great tires.
    one drawaback was that they do not like the cold. They loose adhesion
    quite quickly when the weather gets cold. But then, being a summer tire
    that the Ecsta 712 is, we should know that


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