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Ford Mustang: Compression ratio at sea level vs Denver

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    Scott
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    Compression ratio at sea level vs Denver

    I had a conversation today with a member of the Early Mustang Club here in
    Colorado. He said that he's running 10.5:1 compression and is running 85
    octane without a whimper from the motor. He said it was due to the altitude.
    Basically saying that, yes, the motor may be 10.5:1 @ sea level, but... take
    it up a mile high dropping the air pressure, and having less O2 in the air
    also, drops the equivalent compression to 9.5:1. Thus the ability to use
    regular pump gas.
    Truth or BS? Judges??

    Scott Williams
    '66 High Country Special



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    Michael
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    Re: Compression ratio at sea level vs Denver

    Just as boost from a supercharger or turbo increases the effective
    compression ratio of an engine less dense air does the opposite. At a
    higher altitude there is less atmospheric pressure. Therefore less air
    enters the cylinder on the intake stroke which in turn reduces overall
    static and dynamic pressures. The drop is about one point at altitudes
    above 4,500 feet. This is why 85 octane is sold in Colorado (and other
    high elevation areas) because most of the cars driven there were
    engineered to run on 87 octane at, or near, sea level.

    Scott Williams wrote: 


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    Chip
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    Re: Compression ratio at sea level vs Denver

    "Michael Johnson, PE" <com> wrote in message > Scott Williams wrote: 


    compression ratio is a calculated figure of total cylinder/chamber
    volume to the compressed volume. the difference in volume from bottom
    dead center to top dead center basically. it doesn't change!!
    compression pressure on the other hand does. that's where the
    difference is.
    Chip

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    Michael
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    Re: Compression ratio at sea level vs Denver



    Chip Stein wrote: 

    That's why I used the terms static and dynamic compression. The
    calculated ratio using volumes does not change. Most refer to effective
    CR to descibe how the engine responds under differing atmospheric
    pressures due to high altitude or use of forced induction. At 4,500+
    feet the effect is like lowing the CR 1 point at sea level.


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    Scott
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    Re: Compression ratio at sea level vs Denver

    So my 10:1 302 is effectively only a 9:1 here in Denver?
    Scott

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    Michael
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    Re: Compression ratio at sea level vs Denver

    I'm not sure how I managed to make the other post but you should be able
    to tune the engine like it has a 9:1 CR. Keep in mind that you might
    have to run higher octane gas at lower elevations. Using 87 octane
    might be enough though.

    Scott Williams wrote: 


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    Scott
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    Re: Compression ratio at sea level vs Denver

    Cool, thanks alot.

    Scott

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