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- 09-02 11:58 PM #1RandyGuest
coilovers
anyone know of a place to get coilovers for all 4 corners of a 85 GT
Vert.????
- 09-03 12:29 AM #2CigManXFlsGuest
Re: coilovers
- 09-03 03:49 AM #3DanGuest
Re: coilovers
"Randy" <com> wrote in message
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Grantelli makes 'em:
http://www.granatellimotorsports.com/fordcoiloverkits.htm
Maximum Motorsports makes 'em too:
http://www.maximummotorsports.com/mmrco.asp
If you've got a strong caster/camber plate the front strut towers will be no
problem. The issues I've seen with strut tower strength all start with a
weak C/C plate that bends under load and concentrates the forces.
I've got the MM fronts on my '03. I love 'em. It's a really nice kit, well
made, and very high quality.
Dan
'03 Cobra convertible
With some stuff on it
- 09-03 11:58 PM #4RandyGuest
Re: coilovers
Thanks , we are planning magor chassis mods
- 09-04 01:56 AM #5JDGuest
Re: coilovers
On Tue, 2 Sep 2003 21:49:19 -0600, "Dan Talso" <net> wrote:
I used to have MM CC plates on my '98 GT, until I personally SAW the results
of a bottom-out condition that popped the spherical bearings right out of the
shell, putting two holes through the hood. The driver was not amused.
On the OEM setup, extra parts prevent this sort of problem; these parts place
the bottom-out forces on the strut tower where it belongs, not solely on the
spherical bearing itself. If you study the MM design with an eye on
bottoming-out conditions, you will quickly see how this can happen.
I would *never* use coilovers on a Mustang, as the strut towers were never
designed for these kinds of loads. And after seeing those bearings pop out, I
pulled my own MM's out, replacing them with OEM parts that will never suffer
that kind of failure. And frankly, most street drivers install CC plates just
for looks anyway; 99% of the time, all they're really good for is added camber
adjustment which can be gained by simply elongating the strut tower slots in
minutes with a small, round hand file.
-JD
- 09-05 02:56 AM #6DanGuest
Re: coilovers
"JD Adams" <Net> wrote in message
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Interesting. My experience is different. I have heard of incidents like
yours but I have never seen one personally. Each of the cases that I do know
of were the result of coil bind in hard corners. The coils bound up an put a
higher load into the C/C plate/strut tower. One case was a repetative
pot-hole on a road race course. The clear answer here is: choose a rate and
spring length that avoids coil-bind.
On the other hand, I hang and have spoken with many people with thousands
and thousands of miles on properly set up coil-overs and MM C/C plates. Many
of these guys also have hundreds of hours on track and a few regularly race
open road events. None have had a failure with the four bolt MM system and a
couple of them run spring rates as high as 450 lb/in.
Your mileage obviously varies. I've come to trust the Griggs and Maximum
Motorsports engineering. Both companies do an outstanding job and both have
run cars for a long, long time with coil-overs and no issues. There will
always be statistical failures, it happens. I personally have seen two
failures of the stock plates with high rate springs in the stock perches
that I'll call "quality anomolies".
If you want even more info go search the archives at www.corner-carvers.com.
There are loads of race Mustangs there running coil-overs with no issues.
Like many serious mods, coil-overs take some care and research to be
properly installed and used. There are risks that one should understand. You
shouldn't just slap a set on without understanding what is going on and
thinking it over before making the decision. I went through all of this
before putting my kit in. I have every confidence in the kit and the car
with the wheel rates I chose. I inspect the kit regularly to make sure there
is no coil bind to prevent the things we've talked about. A poor choice can
lead to other problems, not just strut tower damage.
Dan
2003 Cobra convertible
With some stuff on it.
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