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Mazda Miata: Classic Carriers Trunk Rack

  1. #1
    Dave
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    Classic Carriers Trunk Rack

    I would like to get a trunk lid rack for my 2000 Miata. My local
    dealer has talked me out of the standard Mazda rack as he claims the
    fasteners are not too secure and it can be pulled OFF very easily (the
    fasteners pull out.) It also has a fairly low weight limit (22 lbs.)

    I have read about the Classic Carriers rack and visited their website.
    This looks like a very good rack and being able to remove it except for
    the very few times it would be in use is great. However they refuse to
    answer emails, their toll free number doesn't work in Canada and all I
    can find out about ordering directly from them is that they would
    probably ship via UPS which is unacceptable for cross-border shipping to
    Canada as they (UPS) charges an outrageous brokerage fee on top of the
    shipping fees.

    I contacted a Washington dealer that was listed on the Classic Carrier
    web site but they denied ever carrying this line.

    Can anyone give me any hints as to how to purchase one of these racks in
    Canada?

    Dave


  2. #2
    Larry
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    Re: Classic Carriers Trunk Rack

    Dear Dave,

    Since I live in the Seattle area, I picked up the phone and called Classic
    Carriers. Here is the information they gave to me:

    They are currently out of carriers for the Miata. The old carriers they sold
    were chromed, but the new type is stainless steel. The price is $376. They
    will be receiving the new type carriers in about three weeks. The shipping
    to Canada is $60. They are not permitted to put "Gift" on the customs tag,
    but they don't know if there is duty on the product.

    You can place your order by phone. The Seattle number is: 1-206-527-7058.
    They accept Master Card and Visa.

    Good luck!

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  3. #3
    Dave
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    Re: Classic Carriers Trunk Rack

    On Wed, 12 May 2004 17:06:18 GMT, Dave Teece <net> wrote in
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    Any trunk rack will have a low weight rating. The metal is simply
    not all that thick. The exception would be if the rack has parts inside
    the trunk to re-inforce the lid substantially.

    My trunk has been bent by closing it with too much stuff inside.
    (previous owner)



  4. #4
    Dave
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    Re: Classic Carriers Trunk Rack

    Larry,

    Thanks for going to this trouble for me. Their website says they ship
    via UPS in the USA but I have not been able to find out if they would
    use some other carrier to Canada.

    The problem is not the shipping cost ($60 as you found out) but rather
    the brokerage fee that UPS will charge to handle customs as the parcel
    arrives in Canada. It could add another $100 to $200 to the bill for
    just the HANDLING of it (even if there turns out to be no duty.)

    Other couriers (Fedex etc.) or even the mail (if the package isn't too
    bulky or heavy) handle it much better.

    It concerns me a lot that Classic Carriers won't even extend the
    courtesy of returning either of my emails... Makes me wonder how they
    would handle a problem if there was one.

    Dave

    Larry Gadbois wrote:
     


  5. #5
    Dave
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    Re: Classic Carriers Trunk Rack

    Dave

    Yes, I agree that the Miata trunk material is light but while the
    standard Mazda rack is rated at 22 lbs, the Classic Carrier rack is
    rated at 75 lbs. (I just want to carry a 37 lb bundle.)

    The standard Mazda rack has four metal strips laying on the trunk so
    each will have to bear only about 5.5 lbs. If you guess at the surface
    area of each strip as at least 12 square inches (and I'll bet it is
    more than this) that would be about 8 ounces / square inch. I'll bet a
    bird dropping hits with more force! :-)

    I would feel comfortable putting my 37 lb bundle on the Mazda rack if I
    was confident in the fasteners holding it ON, but I understand it does
    not bolt through with big washers inside but rather is drilled into
    blind cavities with press-in fasteners that don't resist a hard pull
    well. My dealer claims to have had a new customer test by yanking and
    it came off in his hand. But I have not examinined one myself to see if
    this is likely or not. It seems like some sort of expanding fasteners
    would be possible if there is enough depth in the blind cavities to
    allow such a fastener to open up inside.

    My other reservation with the standard Mazda rack is it is not clear to
    me how you fasten a package to it. There is the raised rail at the
    rear, of course, but I am not sure if there is some way to attach to the
    leading edge of the 4 strips. (My dealer doesn't stock them, they
    bring them in once you order one, so I can't check and I rarely see on
    on the road, here.)

    Dave

    Dave Null Sr. wrote:
     


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    Cliff
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    Re: Classic Carriers Trunk Rack

    I've got the Mazda OEM rack and we have loaded it on numerous occasions with
    nearly 45 lbs. of luggage and driven 500 miles on the Interstates--I don't
    know where the 22 lb. rating came from, I suspect it was Mazda's legal
    department, not the engineers.

    This photo:

    http://mymiata.paladinmicro.com/KeyWestReady.jpg

    shows us on our way to Key West with over 30 lbs on the rack.



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  7. #7
    Leon
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    Re: Classic Carriers Trunk Rack

    "Cliff Knight" <com> wrote:
     

    Gee, don't you get wet, driving all the way to Key West from
    Great Britain?

    Leon

    --
    Leon van Dommelen Bozo, the White 96 Sebring Miata .)
    To reply to me, the word Miata must be in the subject.
    EXIT THE INTERSTATES (Jamie Jensen)

  8. #8
    Leon
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    Re: Classic Carriers Trunk Rack

    "Cliff Knight" <com> wrote:
     

    I would suspect it may have to do with safety in an accident,
    not normal driving on the Interstate.

    Leon

    --
    Leon van Dommelen Bozo, the White 96 Sebring Miata .)
    To reply to me, the word Miata must be in the subject.
    EXIT THE INTERSTATES (Jamie Jensen)

  9. #9
    Dave
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    Re: Classic Carriers Trunk Rack

    Cliff,

    Thanks for this added info about the usefulness of the Mazda OEM rack.
    Can you add a bit of detail about how things are attached to this rack,
    please? I see from your photo that you appear to have the luggage
    strapped on but I do not know how you attach to the leading edge of the
    fore-and-aft rails that appear to be mounted tight to the trunk lid.
    Are there openings to hook into or are there fittings that attach to
    these rails? Did you install it yourself or was it dealer installed?
    (I would like another opinion about how easily it is to rip the rack off
    the trunk as I can not believe they didn't provide some sort of
    expanding fasteners rather than "press-in" inserts.)

    Dave

    Cliff Knight wrote:
     



  10. #10
    Cliff
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    Re: Classic Carriers Trunk Rack

    That's a bit of an homage to my mother and my heritage--she was a "war
    bride" from Sweffling, Suffolk...


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