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Subaru: Chronic brake rotor warping - 2001 Outback Legacy

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    Jerry
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    Chronic brake rotor warping - 2001 Outback Legacy

    I have a 2001 Outback Legacy wagon. Discs were shaved at 30K and again at
    60K. Complained to dealer and got the brush off even though we had an
    extended warranty. Again, at 80K, needed shaving again, and at the
    suggestion of a lister on this news group, got organic pads and new rotors
    by a thrd party shop. Now, at 90K getting the old familiar vibration upon
    braking at higher speeds (> 60mph). The shop says they'll shave them for
    free, but there clearly is an engineering design problem, so he called up
    Subaru and spoke to a friend, who said this is a known problem with 2001
    Outbacks with no known solution. He said some cars have no problems, while
    others do. We don't drive our card hard enough to heat up the rotors from
    prolonged hard braking or stop-and-go driving.

    I've heard that the 2002 and later have a larger braking area, which would
    solve the possible overheating and warpage, so I suspect this is well known
    to Subaru.

    Given that we had a blown driver-side head gasket (fortunately, just before
    our 80K extended warranty ran out), and now this, I'm about ready to find
    another car maker.

    Anyone had the rotor problem?

    If so, did you find a solution?

    Jerry



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    Todd
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    Re: Chronic brake rotor warping - 2001 Outback Legacy

    "Jerry C Shaw" <net> writes:
     

    Once you cut rotors, they're thinner, and more prone to warping
    again.

    Sounds like time for fresh rotors, and taking stock of your wheel
    torque. A not-uncommon cause of rotor warpage are clue-impaired techs
    using air-driven wrenches to tighten lugnuts to the improper torque. A
    hand torque wrench is a wise investment.


    --
    Todd H.
    2001 Legacy Outback Wagon, 2.5L H-4
    Chicago, Illinois USA

  3. #3
    Jerry
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    Re: Chronic brake rotor warping - 2001 Outback Legacy

    First cutting at 30K on factory new rotors, all dealer servicing. I would
    think they would know what torque to use. They also did tire rotation and
    new tires. Second cutting at 60K front/rear.

    New rotors front and rear at 80K, now 9K later same thing.. Bad design with
    too small braking area. Again, read my note.

    "Todd H." <net> wrote in message news:com... 
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  4. #4
    Dave
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    Re: Chronic brake rotor warping - 2001 Outback Legacy

    On Tue, 21 Oct 2003 21:22:06 GMT, "Jerry C Shaw" <net>
    wrote in news:2shlb.198920$%h1.192739@sccrnsc02:
     

    You would think a mechanic could avoid over-tightening wheel nut/bolts
    but it happens quite often as they're too lazy to torque them properly
    and it's quicker to simply use the air wrench.
     

    This topic comes up quite often. It is more likely either the
    rotors were not broken in properly or the wheel nut/bolts
    were over-torqued.

    http://www.stoptech.com/whitepapers/warped_rotors_myth.htm

    I haven't had a warped rotor since I started torquing my own wheels.
    They used to be common when I took my car to a dealer for servicing
    and didn't check and correct the torque.

  5. #5
    Edward
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    Re: Chronic brake rotor warping - 2001 Outback Legacy

    Sounds like over heated brakes by clamping hard on brakes during cool down
    after hard braking. Just too many times to often makes me think maybe a
    change in driving habits are in order. Were the calipers check for excessive
    dragging? ed
    "Jerry C Shaw" <net> wrote in message
    news:2shlb.198920$%.. 
    with 
    news:com... 



  6. #6
    Tony
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    Re: Chronic brake rotor warping - 2001 Outback Legacy

    Hi,
    If you're replacing with dealer parts(OEM), try sosme after market
    rotors. And double check the torque yourself.
    Tony

    Jerry C Shaw wrote:
     


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    Mike
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    Re: Chronic brake rotor warping - 2001 Outback Legacy

    2001 Outback with former braking vibration.
    Replaced pads with best aftermarkt $43 pads (semi-metalic)
    Nothing else. Vibration gone.
    51K on former pads. Nothing done to rotors.
    Vibration on stopping was worse when brakes were hot.
    Had a Chrysler 300M that had rotors go every 25K ...oh that's right
    Chrysler...never mind.




    In article <Sdjlb.142099$pl3.105825@pd7tw3no>, ca says... 


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    Father
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    Re: Chronic brake rotor warping - 2001 Outback Legacy

    On Tue, 21 Oct 2003 22:50:17 GMT, "Dave Null Sr." <com>
    wrote:
     

    Interesting article, wonder why he didn't mention wheel torque?

    Father Guido
    ¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯
    I plan on living forever... so far, so good

  9. #9
    Jim
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    Re: Chronic brake rotor warping - 2001 Outback Legacy

    My 2k Outback had warped rotors due to overtightening wheel lug nuts. Had
    the rotors turned myself at 50K and put the best pads on I could find....I
    used my own torque wrench this time around....I will never let a shop
    tighten them again!...BUY A TORQUE WRENCH!!!


    "Jerry C Shaw" <net> wrote in message
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    known 
    before 



  10. #10
    Dave
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    Re: Chronic brake rotor warping - 2001 Outback Legacy

    On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 03:20:23 GMT, Father Guido <ca> wrote in
    news:com:
     

    He does. Paragraph 3: "...to the recommended torque specification..."

    There are lots of other articles which talk about the importance
    of using a torque wrench. Here's one:

    http://www.canadiandriver.com/articles/jk/020109.htm



 
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