GM / General Motors: Can Anything Stop Toyota?

C. E. White wrote:
 



We heard you the first time, and we also know you speak for a small of
you. They are #2 on the planet, apparently, folks want dull and
uniteresting. Of course, trying to get out of a burning car is far from
dull and uninteresting, maybe you need a Ford?

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SENATOR ZELL MILLER DEMOCRAT OF GEORGIA, the nation's most prominent
conservative Democrat, said today he will endorse President Bush for
re-election in 2004 and campaign for him if Bush wishes him to. Miller
said Bush is "the right man at the right time" to govern the country.

The next five years "will determine the kind of world my children and
grandchildren will live in," Miller said in an interview. And he
wouldn't "trust" any of the nine Democratic presidential candidates with
governing during "that crucial period," he said. "This Democrat will
vote for President Bush in 2004."

vlj wrote:
 
VLJ, next time, dont hold back and tell us how you feel. Hey, I bet you
can get a new Suburban for about $3000 less than a Sequoia, using Mikes
logic, its a good value, but he doesnt keep anything out of the 3/36
warranty.


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SENATOR ZELL MILLER DEMOCRAT OF GEORGIA, the nation's most prominent
conservative Democrat, said today he will endorse President Bush for
re-election in 2004 and campaign for him if Bush wishes him to. Miller
said Bush is "the right man at the right time" to govern the country.

The next five years "will determine the kind of world my children and
grandchildren will live in," Miller said in an interview. And he
wouldn't "trust" any of the nine Democratic presidential candidates with
governing during "that crucial period," he said. "This Democrat will
vote for President Bush in 2004."

Philip® wrote:
 

They actually hold their value as USED vehicles quite well. It's
just the first 2-4 years that they depreciate fast due to all of the
fleet sales and used taxis and police cruisers(most of which are
totalled/salvaged - likely half of 1-4 year old cars)

This of course drops their value, but the cars are quite decent used.
Buy for $10K and sell for 6-7K a few years later.

I am not so sure the 'Toyota Premium' actually works out in the end. I think it
depends on your area, dealer mark ups, and how long you will keep the vehicle.
For example, in Northern Calif, dealer mark up appears on most Accords and
Camrys. When my neighbor bought his Camry, he bragged that the dealer mark up
was "only $2000". This sets the price differential of about $4,000, or $5,000
OVER a comparable Taurus (actual sales price, not MSRP). Now, over the
'ownership period', I do not think the Taurus will have $4,000 worth of
maintenance, or repairs vs the Camry never needing anything. So, that leaves
re-sale value as the comparable 'gap'. I think the Toyota will bottom out at
probably $3,000, and the Taurus at maybe half that, so I am still not totally
convinced it is worth the premium for Toyota quality.

Having said all this; I have read the the LOWEST cost of ownership per mile is
to buy a plain, 1 year old Detroit 4 door car, keep it three years, and trade
for another 1 year old Detroit car. The theroy here is that you have 2 years
remaining if the 3/36 warranty to protect you, so no repair costs impacted
there, the 1 year old Detroit car is a bargain, selling at 30% off MSRP, and
you have peice of mind of newer car ownership. I'll let you know how I make out
doing this with my Impala.
Bill
88 Lancer Shelby
91 LeBaron Convertible
01 Chevy Impala LS

"MDT Tech®" <com> wrote in message
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They do a 

As are your views..... at least Eds make sense.
Bob

I always get inexpensive cars 10-26 years old and rarely has one started
much past 90,000 miles. The first--1969 Dart 225 six was a Grandma's car (I
had the documentation to prove it) at 69K. I bought a 1968 Chevelle 4dr
230something six with 136K and it went to new owners with 171K two years
later. I got reports of sitings at least three years later, so I'll bet it
hit 210K.

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MDT Tech® wrote:
 

I've never had a Ford as bad as the Toyota I owned. I only wish the Toyota
would have burned up. As for claiming that Toyota is #2 on the planet. I
think you have that wrong as well.

Ed

There seem to be a lot of Toyotas and othe Japanese vehicles on
GM dealers used car lots. I wonder what stories they could tell,
as well?


mike hunt




vlj wrote: