GM / General Motors: Can Anything Stop Toyota?

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MDT Tech® <com> being of bellicose mind posted: 

AS long as we define "Break Down" as a failure that requires a
flatbed ride to a repair facility then..... I cannot agree with
MikeHunt that all cars break down. With my definition in mind, Fords
"break down" at a higher percentage rate. ;-)

66,000 miles.
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~~Philip "Never let school interfere
with your education - Mark Twain"

In news:Uuywb.13814$news.pas.earthlink.net,
MDT Tech® <com> being of bellicose mind posted: 

IF the odometer had displayed three 6's in a row..... would the earth
have opened up?
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~~Philip "Never let school interfere
with your education - Mark Twain"

MDT Tech® wrote:
 

LOL, In my life there have been four transmission faiure in the family.
One Jensen-Healey, one Ford, one VW, and one Toyota. Guess which one was
the most expensive (lke 2x the others). Maybe it wouldn't have been so
bad that it cost so much, but the car was so horrid that it was toture
to decide to waste the money to have it fixed (and if you haven't
guessed it was brand T). I was delighted to unload that junk on someone
else. Oh what a feeling.

A friend of mine was a typical Toyota owner - he had an older diesel
pick-up He drove it to over 200,000 miles. Of course to get there it
required two tranmssions on one engine rebuild. According to him it was
the most reliable vehicle in the world. I could only laugh. Not only was
it horribly unreliable, it drove and rode like a dog cart. Oh what a
feeling.

Ed

Ed

In news:com,
C. E. White <com> being of bellicose mind posted: 

You're MikeHunt's son ... aren't you.
--

~~Philip "Never let school interfere
with your education - Mark Twain"

"Philip®" wrote: 

No, I am just a disgruntled former Toyota owner who is trying to
counteract what I consider to be Toyota's undeserved reputation as a
supplier of fine cars. It is not that Toyota builds bad cars, they
don't. But they aren't all that great either. For the most part they are
boring, uninventive designs. I suppose the Pirus is an exception, but to
me it seems second rate compared to the Civic hybrid. From my personal
knowledge Toyotas are not particularly reliable, they are not
particularly safe, but they do cost a lot. Despite what I perceive to be
extreme mediocrity, Toyota gets tons of good press. It reminds me of the
old days, when GM could push absolute crap out the door and have it
declared "Car of the Year." Think of the absolute turkeys Toyota has
unloaded on the US (the Previa, the original Cressida, the T100, the
original Sienna, the original 4Runner, the Sequoia, the Echo) that the
automotive press has treated like the greatest thing since sliced bread.
Something smells (and I don't just mean the exhaust from a Camry).

Ed

Ed

In news:com,
C. E. White <com> being of bellicose mind posted: 

So it would be fair to say you have embarked on a personal crusade?
--

~~Philip "Never let school interfere
with your education - Mark Twain"

"Philip®" <net.invalid> wrote in message news:<Wawwb.13668$news.pas.earthlink.net>... 


SHUT THE FUCK UP YOU DUMB BIGOTED IGNORANT HIPOCRITICAL TROLL! Go
back under your bridge and stay there!


I thought I had you on my killfile list. Now I'll have to try again.

One of these days Philip will be buried in his defunct TOY o DUH and
were all gonna gloat.

Actually, Toyota engines are extremely reliable. The fact that they use a
few less layers of paint, however, is reason to worry - the cars will rot to
pieces very quickly, unless waxing, polishing, and rust protection are done
with fanatic repetition. They are solid and reliable cars, however, if
looked after. Not very stylish, mind you, but but reliable.

If a US company were to buy Toyota, I think that the quality of NA cars
would improve a great deal - case in point being Jaguar, whose engineering
make the LS and new Thunderbird into pretty kickass luxury cars, or the
Asuna-designed Sunfire/Cavalier. Toyota would probably benefit too.
 

Those days are long gone for ANY auto manufacturer. It's infinitely cheaper
to make unit body cars with wimply little sewing machine engines that need
to be spinning 5000rpm to move the car at 80km/h. Good handling is a
side-effect, simply because the mass isn't there to allow the car to wallow.
Now, if only they'd get the idea with SUVs - bad-handling 4x4 station wagons
with no luggage space that owners would be mortified to drive on a dirt
road, much less off-road. I always love winter because it really
demonstrates to SUV people that their tanks don't handle any better than
most cars on a slippery surface, and that 4x4 doesn't apply to braking. Tee
hee.

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