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Toyota Camry: Camry still drifting left after alignment

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    Stevie
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    Camry still drifting left after alignment

    After 3 trips and three alignments the dealer finally agreed to put new
    michellins on my 03 Camry XLE with 7000 miles. I got a print-out of
    the alignment specs and it all appears to be within spec.

    I am still getting a slight drift or pull biased to the left. Is it
    possible that their equipment needs to be calibrated or is it self
    calibrating? Any other suggestions would be appreciated.

    thanks


    Steve

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    C.
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    Re: Camry still drifting left after alignment



    Stevie Ray wrote: 

    Is the steering wheel properly centered? Notice any smell from the
    brakes that might indicate a dragging brake? Any reason to suspect the
    car has been subjected to a major suspension jolt? Have you tried
    swapping the tires from side to side to see if this has any affect (I
    know this is unlikely since you have new tires).

    I would suggest trying a different alignment shop. The equipment is only
    as good as the operator. Check with people you know and try to find an
    experienced alignment shop.

    References:

    http://members.aol.com/carleyware/library/steerpul.htm
    http://www.babcox.com/editorial/tr/tr50244.htm

    Ed

  3. #3
    Howard
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    Re: Camry still drifting left after alignment

    Ah, nothing like moving far left. I'm far left, what the problem? I've
    hijacked the democrat party.


  4. #4
    Stevie
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    Re: Camry still drifting left after alignment


    Thanks Ed. That was going to be my next try. I just thought since it
    was in warranty that Toyota should do it. 

  5. #5
    ZZZonka
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    Re: Camry still drifting left after alignment

    My 98 Camry with 55K miles and new tires pulls to the right, more then the
    normal drift caused by "road crown". I bought the car used and the dealer
    had put a cheap set of tires on it, I contribute the pull to the tires, one
    of these days I'm going to get around to rotating the tires. So far I've
    made sure to keep the tire pressure correct and pretty much just drive the
    car, I don't drive the car enough to justify worrying about the pull too
    much, I've thought of putting a little more air in the right side tires but
    haven't tried that yet. I'm keeping an eye on the tires to see if the wear
    on the tires is even, but other then that I just drive it.
    The alignment is sometimes set up for a slight left pull bias to overcome
    the normal "road crown", you might ask that it be set more neutral, you can
    also ask for the max amount of caster so the wheels will try to run
    straight.

    "C. E. White" wrote:
     


  6. #6
    Wolfgang
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    Re: Camry still drifting left after alignment

    Not a good idea (safety/handling) to vary tire pressure from side to side to
    compensate!

    "ZZZonka Tonka" <bonka> wrote in message
    news:bonka... 
    wear 



  7. #7
    Philip®
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    Re: Camry still drifting left after alignment

    In news:bonka,
    ZZZonka Tonka <bonka> being of bellicose mind posted: 
     

    ED. You JUST might discover that caster and camber are not
    adjustable on Camry. Check it out. ONLY toe. Maybe you should
    investigate how many Fords are similar.
    --

    -Philip

    "Whatever is a choice will become chosen"





  8. #8
    ZZZonka
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    Re: Camry still drifting left after alignment

    Cover your eyes while I tell everyone else about this,
    Stut bending or after market adjustment kits, off set bushings etc.
    anything to get a hundred thousand miles on down the road.

    "Philip®" wrote:
     


  9. #9
    Jason
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    Re: Camry still drifting left after alignment


    "Stevie Ray" <com> wrote in message
    news:050120041837026485%com... 

    There ar a number of ways to apply compensating adjustments to correct a
    cars tendency (when the reason is difficult to find) to pull to one side,
    even after correct alignment.

    Most aligners just do the job using the specs supplied by the manufacturer
    and then hand it back. I would ask the aligner to make an adjustment to the
    castor and/or camber to bring the car back to straight-tracking.
    The real reason the car pulls, maybe due to a factor everyone has missed or
    not even checked ie the body-chassis is out of alignment or not 'square'. By
    this I mean the wheel-base and or track is not equal. There has to be a
    reason.

    Jason



  10. #10
    C.
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    Re: Camry still drifting left after alignment

    "Philip®" wrote: 

    Philip, I never suggested that the Camry's caster or camber should be
    checked or adjusted - ZZZonka Tonka did. The last Ford I owned that did
    not have adjustable Caster and Camber was a Fiesta. Some of the others
    reqired a kit to make the adjustment, but all could be adjusted. On the
    other hand, I have not had an alignment performed on any vehicle I have
    owned since 1992. I owned a Mustang that pulled as the Camry mentioned
    in the original message. I was sure the alignment was out, so I took the
    vehicle to an alignment shop I trust (I did not trust the Ford Dealer to
    get it right, even though the car was still under warranty). The
    technician drove the car, checked it on his machine and then explained
    the problem to me. There was a broken belt in one of the tires (Goodyear
    Eagles). He took the time to show me the tire and expalin the situation.
    There was a slight inconsistency in the tread that I never detected
    until he showed me. He said the alignment was nearly perfect and that
    new tires would fix the problem. He was 100% correct. The Eagles were
    near end of life, so it was not a big deal. And the alignement shop only
    charged be $15 for the whole diagnosis. It is a great shop. It was the
    tird thime I had taken a vehicle there for an alignment. In one of the
    other cases, they actuually had to do some work (for a modest fee) and
    the other time, they told me there was no problem with the car, I just
    needed new tires, and they sent me off without charging anything. This
    is the kind of shop the individual with the pulling Camry needs to find.
    Honest hard working technicians who know thier buisness. As you can
    imagine the shop I use is always busy. You usually have to make an
    appoint weeks in advance although they do try to work in emergencies.

    Ed


 
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