Toyota: Camry 1MZ-FE (V6) oil filter.

Hi everyone,

As I was preparing to change the oil in my '98 Camry V6, I decided to
see what people on the net had to say about the standard Toyota oil
filter for the 1MZ-FE. The standard filter part number is: 08922-02011.
A quick search turned up the following interesting links:

http://www.mkiv.com/techarticles/pa...lter/index.html

http://bananags.netfirms.com/techs/oil_filters/

http://www.intellexual.net/faq.html
(go to section with title "Toyota oil filters explained:")

http://theoildrop.server101.com/ubb...=6;t=000052;p=1

So it looks like the 08922-02011 filter is a USA-made "cheap" design,
whereas there is a part number 90915-20004 corresponding to a
significantly more sophisticated and higher-quality filter, made by
Denso in Japan.

This 90915-20004 filter is used on Lexus cars, and the various websites
make it clear that it is far superior to the 08922-02011 and strongly
recommends it. These sites have also pointed out that the screw size,
pitch and thread type are fully compatible between the two.

So, I'm definitely interested in using this 90915-20004 filter on my
1MZ-FE Camry, but I haven't been able to turn up any hits on Camry
owners talking about it. This leads me to the following questions for
people here:

1. Are any 1MZ-FE Camry/Solara owners here using this filter? If so,
what do you have to say about it? Any downsides/negatives?

2. The bypass valve on the 90915-20004 looks like it should and does
have a different pressure vs. opening curve than the 08922-02011.

However, given that this filter is sized for a Lexus V8, will the
difference in the bypass valve operation be a cause for concern with the
1MZ-FE? My thinking is that the answer should be "no, it's not cause for
concern" because the oil flow rate demands for the V8 are going to be
higher than the V6, so if anything, the bypass should be more likely to
open (the safer of the two options).

Then again, maybe with the V8, the oil "vacuum" is higher when its
starved, so pehaps the bypass valve opens later than it would for an
oil-starved 1MZ-FE. Ultimately, it's a question of total oil flow over
all operating conditions, and I don't have enough info to be certain if
the 90915-20004 will always flow as much as or more than the 08922-
02011.

Since I use full synthetics, it seems that if the answer to #2 is a
positive one, the 90915-20004 is the way to go given synthetics'
extended drain intervals.

I'd like to hear people's thoughts on this. I do my own oil changes, I
have the flexibility to do it exactly the way I want.

Thanks in advance,
John.

----- Original Message -----
From: "John" <com>
Newsgroups: alt.autos.toyota.camry,alt.autos.toyota
Sent: Monday, September 01, 2003 1:07 AM
Subject: Camry 1MZ-FE (V6) oil filter.

 
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I have a '99 Camry LE V6 (1MZ-FE) with 64K miles. Running M1 5w-30 oil since
5500 miles.
I was using M1 (M1-102) filters until 60K until I noticed and correlated a
dry knocking problem on startup after leaving the car sitting for about 3
weeks.
I changed to the Toyota 08922-02011 filter for one oil change, but after
talking to the parts counter at a dealership they told me an equal or better
substitute was the Denso 90915-YZZB9, which I looked at and then
subsequently bought a case of.
I think they were $6.50 apiece in a case of 10 filters. These filters have
the Denso-style (crystal element) design. I looked at cut-open pictures of
similar filters on the web and they looked substantial.
They are almost identical in size to the 08922-02011 and M1-102 filters. I
don't have any info about bypass opening pressures, though.
I am running my first one now with about 1500 miles on it.
No problems so far, but I haven't let the car sit for 3 weeks, yet.