Cadillac: The Cadillac of Cadillacs
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The Cadillac of Cadillacs
"So the new Cadillac CTS is the 2008 Motor Trend Car of the Year.
Accolades from an enthusiast magazine normally don't get much attention
outside advertising copy, but let's suspend disbelief for a minute and
consider the award at face value..."
Wall Street Journal: http://snipr.com/CadillacCTS
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Re: The Cadillac of Cadillacs
Nomen Nescio wrote:
Not exactly a distinguished list to end up on. Have a look at the COTY
history book:
2002 Ford Thunderbird
2001 Chrysler PT Cruiser
2000 Lincoln LS
1999 Chrysler 300M
1998 Chevrolet Corvette
1997 Chevrolet Malibu
1996 Dodge Caravan
1995 Chrysler Cirrus
1994 Ford Mustang
1993 Ford Probe GT
1992 Cadillac Seville Touring Sedan
1991 Chevrolet Caprice Classic LTZ
1990 Lincoln Town Car
1989 Ford Thunderbird SC
1988 Pontiac Grand Prix
1987 Ford Thunderbird Turbo Coupe
1986 Ford Taurus LX
1985 Volkswagen GTI
1984 Chevrolet Corvette
1983 AMC / Renault Alliance
1982 Chevrolet Camaro Z28
1981 Chrysler K Cars, Dodge Aries / Plymouth Reliant
1980 Chevrolet Citation
1979 Buick Riviera S
1978 Chrysler, Dodge Omni / Plymouth Horizon
1977 Chevrolet Caprice
1976 Chrysler, Dodge Aspen / Plymouth Volare
1975 Chevrolet Monza 2+2
1974 Ford Mustang II
1973 Chevrolet Monte Carlo
1972 Citroën SM
1971 Chevrolet Vega
Wow, what an honor!!!!!
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Re: The Cadillac of Cadillacs
"John Horner" <com> wrote in message
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What's the matter Horner? Because the list isn't full of piece of shit
foreign cars, it's a bad one? You Japanese lovers are all the same. If Toy
had won this year, you would be singing there praises.
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Re: The Cadillac of Cadillacs
"80 Knight" <com> wrote
You one-issue "parrots" would be funny if you weren't so pathetic.
The point IS that the list, hindsight being 20-20, if full of piece-of-shit
vehicles.
So most of them were US made.
That should be no surprise to anyone with an IQ above moron.
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Re: The Cadillac of Cadillacs
"80 Knight" <com> wrote in message
You have to admit, the Vega was quite a stretch for COTY. Monza was not far
behind.
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Re: The Cadillac of Cadillacs
"Ken Abrams" <suckers> wrote in message
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My self and my family have owned several GM vehicles on that list, and we
actually liked them. The fact is Toyota freaks will praise anything Toyota
does, and bash everyone else. For example, when Toyota issues a 100,000+
vehicle recall, they are doing it because they care about there customer's,
and want to make them happy, and because it was only a minor "slip-up". If
GM makes the same recall, it's because they were forced into it, and they
made a shitty vehicle to begin with. I personally couldn't give a damn what
you or Horner likes, but you seem new here, so perhaps you should close your
mouth and realize what is going on (IE: Horner being a Troll) before saying
something stupid.
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Re: The Cadillac of Cadillacs
"Edwin Pawlowski" <net> wrote in message
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I will definitely admit some of the cars on that list ended up being junk.
But, some were actually quite good. I owned an '82 Trans Am (same car as
the '82 Camaro). I have owned 2 Grand Prix's from the 1988-1993 era, and
the '91 Caprice was even used as a Police cruiser for many years.
In my opinion, Horner will say whatever makes GM (or domestics in general)
look bad, and the Foreign brands look good.
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Re: The Cadillac of Cadillacs
"80 Knight" <com> wrote in message
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I have no use for the Car of The Year award - it has never been more than a
hollow accolade. That said - 80 Knight is right on more than one point
here. Some of those cars were indeed quite good cars. Others did indeed
deserve an award for what they represented at the time. It's easy to look
back and see how they failed in certain respects, but at the time they
represented something of consequence for the motor company. The lowly Vega
actually served a good purpose for GM. It represented a movement in a
different direction. Yeah, a lot of manufacturing lessons were learned from
the Vega and many of them painful, but at the time, the car represented
something new and something that needed to be happening. Toyota's were
rusting out back then, just like Vega's. Honda had such a rust problem that
they had to provide sheet metal for free to owners. A lot of the problems
that some cars like the Vega experienced, and that it's easy to see in
retrospect, were problems that were very common across the board. A lot of
those COTY cars really did offer something new to a consumer base that
demanded quite a bit.
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-Mike-
net
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Re: The Cadillac of Cadillacs
"80 Knight" <com> wrote
The fact IS that obsession is unhealthy........regardless of which side you
are on.
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Re: The Cadillac of Cadillacs
On Tue, 25 Dec 2007 20:34:48 -0500, "80 Knight" <com>
wrote:
It wasn't so much the actual car, but what they were attempting to do
with them, their design, and GM's first attempts at going Jap.
The difference in looking at the list in hindsight, as opposed to at
it's time of reference sight. In 1982, the T/A was at the top of the
heap in its class. Nothing else compared.
Earlier this year I bought a version of the CTS, a SRX and absolutely
love it. I compared it against everything the Japs & Germans make,
and found it the best for me.
Only new vehicle I ever had a problem with was a Chevy Astro van, and
that was after having had a 13-year great streak with previous one.
So I had a great Astro, it reached pretty much the end of it's long
trip life, and I replaced it with another. Only kept that one until
the first out of Warranty repair. I actually think the car was a
Lemon buy-back that they re-sold me. Never ever had so many problems
with a vehicle.
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