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Cadillac: The Cadillac of Cadillacs

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    Nomen
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    The Cadillac of Cadillacs

    "So the new Cadillac CTS is the 2008 Motor Trend Car of the Year.
    Accolades from an enthusiast magazine normally don't get much attention
    outside advertising copy, but let's suspend disbelief for a minute and
    consider the award at face value..."

    Wall Street Journal: http://snipr.com/CadillacCTS


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    John
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    Re: The Cadillac of Cadillacs

    Nomen Nescio wrote: 

    Not exactly a distinguished list to end up on. Have a look at the COTY
    history book:

    2002 Ford Thunderbird
    2001 Chrysler PT Cruiser
    2000 Lincoln LS
    1999 Chrysler 300M
    1998 Chevrolet Corvette
    1997 Chevrolet Malibu
    1996 Dodge Caravan
    1995 Chrysler Cirrus
    1994 Ford Mustang
    1993 Ford Probe GT
    1992 Cadillac Seville Touring Sedan
    1991 Chevrolet Caprice Classic LTZ
    1990 Lincoln Town Car
    1989 Ford Thunderbird SC
    1988 Pontiac Grand Prix
    1987 Ford Thunderbird Turbo Coupe
    1986 Ford Taurus LX
    1985 Volkswagen GTI
    1984 Chevrolet Corvette
    1983 AMC / Renault Alliance
    1982 Chevrolet Camaro Z28
    1981 Chrysler K Cars, Dodge Aries / Plymouth Reliant
    1980 Chevrolet Citation
    1979 Buick Riviera S
    1978 Chrysler, Dodge Omni / Plymouth Horizon
    1977 Chevrolet Caprice
    1976 Chrysler, Dodge Aspen / Plymouth Volare
    1975 Chevrolet Monza 2+2
    1974 Ford Mustang II
    1973 Chevrolet Monte Carlo
    1972 Citroën SM
    1971 Chevrolet Vega

    Wow, what an honor!!!!!

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    80
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    Re: The Cadillac of Cadillacs

    "John Horner" <com> wrote in message
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    What's the matter Horner? Because the list isn't full of piece of shit
    foreign cars, it's a bad one? You Japanese lovers are all the same. If Toy
    had won this year, you would be singing there praises.



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    Ken
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    Re: The Cadillac of Cadillacs


    "80 Knight" <com> wrote
     

    You one-issue "parrots" would be funny if you weren't so pathetic.

    The point IS that the list, hindsight being 20-20, if full of piece-of-shit
    vehicles.
    So most of them were US made.
    That should be no surprise to anyone with an IQ above moron.






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    Edwin
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    Re: The Cadillac of Cadillacs


    "80 Knight" <com> wrote in message 

    You have to admit, the Vega was quite a stretch for COTY. Monza was not far
    behind.



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    80
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    Re: The Cadillac of Cadillacs

    "Ken Abrams" <suckers> wrote in message
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    My self and my family have owned several GM vehicles on that list, and we
    actually liked them. The fact is Toyota freaks will praise anything Toyota
    does, and bash everyone else. For example, when Toyota issues a 100,000+
    vehicle recall, they are doing it because they care about there customer's,
    and want to make them happy, and because it was only a minor "slip-up". If
    GM makes the same recall, it's because they were forced into it, and they
    made a shitty vehicle to begin with. I personally couldn't give a damn what
    you or Horner likes, but you seem new here, so perhaps you should close your
    mouth and realize what is going on (IE: Horner being a Troll) before saying
    something stupid.



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    80
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    Re: The Cadillac of Cadillacs


    "Edwin Pawlowski" <net> wrote in message
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    I will definitely admit some of the cars on that list ended up being junk.
    But, some were actually quite good. I owned an '82 Trans Am (same car as
    the '82 Camaro). I have owned 2 Grand Prix's from the 1988-1993 era, and
    the '91 Caprice was even used as a Police cruiser for many years.
    In my opinion, Horner will say whatever makes GM (or domestics in general)
    look bad, and the Foreign brands look good.



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    Mike
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    Re: The Cadillac of Cadillacs


    "80 Knight" <com> wrote in message
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    I have no use for the Car of The Year award - it has never been more than a
    hollow accolade. That said - 80 Knight is right on more than one point
    here. Some of those cars were indeed quite good cars. Others did indeed
    deserve an award for what they represented at the time. It's easy to look
    back and see how they failed in certain respects, but at the time they
    represented something of consequence for the motor company. The lowly Vega
    actually served a good purpose for GM. It represented a movement in a
    different direction. Yeah, a lot of manufacturing lessons were learned from
    the Vega and many of them painful, but at the time, the car represented
    something new and something that needed to be happening. Toyota's were
    rusting out back then, just like Vega's. Honda had such a rust problem that
    they had to provide sheet metal for free to owners. A lot of the problems
    that some cars like the Vega experienced, and that it's easy to see in
    retrospect, were problems that were very common across the board. A lot of
    those COTY cars really did offer something new to a consumer base that
    demanded quite a bit.

    --

    -Mike-
    net



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    Ken
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    Re: The Cadillac of Cadillacs


    "80 Knight" <com> wrote 

    The fact IS that obsession is unhealthy........regardless of which side you
    are on.


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    A
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    Re: The Cadillac of Cadillacs

    On Tue, 25 Dec 2007 20:34:48 -0500, "80 Knight" <com>
    wrote:
     
    It wasn't so much the actual car, but what they were attempting to do
    with them, their design, and GM's first attempts at going Jap. 
    The difference in looking at the list in hindsight, as opposed to at
    it's time of reference sight. In 1982, the T/A was at the top of the
    heap in its class. Nothing else compared.

    Earlier this year I bought a version of the CTS, a SRX and absolutely
    love it. I compared it against everything the Japs & Germans make,
    and found it the best for me.

    Only new vehicle I ever had a problem with was a Chevy Astro van, and
    that was after having had a 13-year great streak with previous one.
    So I had a great Astro, it reached pretty much the end of it's long
    trip life, and I replaced it with another. Only kept that one until
    the first out of Warranty repair. I actually think the car was a
    Lemon buy-back that they re-sold me. Never ever had so many problems
    with a vehicle.
    --

    "Oh bother," mummbled Pooh, as he chambered another round.
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    Do`in it Woofy style since `73


 

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