Porsche: CA Smog - Out-of-State 911 SC

In article <googlegroups.com>,
"net" <net> wrote:
 


That is because we have no smog checks in Florida. :>)

The Nazis in the People's Republik of Kalifornia Air Resources Board are
trying to get all of the "old cars" off the road. They really make it
difficult for owners of exotic cars.

I escaped from the PRK to FL 7 years ago and haven't been back.

Orval Fairbairn wrote: 

They're just trying to keep the air that drifts ~your way~ a little
cleaner, is all. You should thank them.
While their policies and laws may irritate some and baffle others (I am
no exception), I have generally found Kalifornia to be more progressive
and aggressive in adopting regulations for social-economic issues, like
cleaning up the environment, which they've certainly 'soiled' just like
the rest of us. Unfortunately, this may mean getting cars that pollute
more off the road.
Not knowing the law, I would venture that the intent would be to remove
old fog-belching Mavericks, Delta 88s, or Pintos, but collateral damage
being what is is, Porsches, Ferraris and Mercedes' have a tougher time,
too. C'est la vie. Someone there hopefully has more accurate
information on this issue.
I is my opinion that they need this progressive and aggressive stance
to keep up with all the progressively aggressive people there. I'm
poking a bit, but that state is very fast by its nature. Things tend to
move quickly, especially traffic. I am a fast(er) driver, but whenever
I drive there, I seem 10mph slower. Washington drivers merge early,
drive slow in the fast lane, and can't drive in the nearly constant
rain. The Golden State drivers would eat them alive. There should be a
competition...
Didn't take long to invoke Godwin on this, did it?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_Law

DS
95 993 Coupe

Former Californian here...

Your 911 will have to be complete and definitely up to snuff. If there is
one thing missing/bypassed/broken on the emissions system, you will fail.
Make sure you are tuned up and running clean because the Smog II test is
much stiffer than the old Smog I. You may also not be allowed (and probably
won't in the future) to take the test at a regular station...they will send
you to a test only station which costs triple (ask me how I know, bringing
in a car from out of state)

Just make sure the 911 is up to standards and you should be fine.

911S's from the mid 70's have the most trouble passing.

"The Dead Senator" <com> wrote in message
news:com... 

In article <com>,
The Dead Senator <com> wrote:
 

What does "progressively aggressive" mean?

In my book, it means "oppressive" and that common sense should be thrown
out in favor of bureaucratic solutions. Remember, environmentalism was
the first refuge sought by the old Leftists when Communism imploded.

Thanks for all the input. FWIW, the vehicle was last tested (and
passed) in 2000, so I assume FLA stopped testing sometime thereafter.
The vehicle is unmodified, and I take that to include any emissions
equipments as well. Well, we will see how it goes...

In article <googlegroups.com>,
"net" <net> wrote:
 


I did not have to have any of my cars checked (Daytona Beach) when I
moved her from PRK in 1999. Perhaps, some counties in FL require smog
checks. Beware: the Eco-Nazis!

Orval Fairbairn wrote: 

I can understand your perspective with regards to bureaucracies, and
can even empathize with the OP about the tough smog rules, but I don't
really share the rest of that perspective too awfully much.
As it is, I don't think we do enough to take care of what we have
around us. It means being smart about our choices. Efficiently
conserving our supply. Blindly using everything around us seems unfair
to us, our descendants, and the very things that we use. We're
disrespecting and cheating ourselves as a species.
Think of it as if we only had one tank of gas to make it across the
desert. We'd likely use that gas pretty frugally to get as far as
possible, no? It is not a limitless supply and we don't particularly
want to be stranded in the desert. It's hot. We'd cook.
A corollary could be drawn about the world around you as it is not
without its varying limits. You and I both see the evidence around us
of those limits. Whether it manifests itself as less fish in the
lake/stream/ocean where you used to fish, less living space in your neck
of the woods, more laws made, higher taxes, less oil reserves, or even
smog tests to keep our atmosphere cleaner they are all representative
components of the finite nature of things.
Are we all hoping that we'll all get transported to a new planet
anytime soon? It will not happen in our lifetimes. Are scientists
going to suddenly solve the puzzle of creating energy from nothing?
This puzzle ~is~ a tough one and will likely go unsolved. This blue
marble is all we have, with a little help from the Sun. As much as I
await the terraforming of Mars or the Moon, we've simply got to make our
tank last as long as possible. Past our lifetimes.
We all take part in the use of energy and the soiling of the Earth in
differing degrees, but if more of us start to think about what we are
doing, instead of blindly and numbly marching forth, that's a positive
start. That's what I see California doing. Waking people up.
There will come a day when this planet will be tapped out. It might be
one hundred years or one thousand. Do not cast this away simply because
it will not occur in your lifetime. We are all responsible. However
far it may be off, we have to make it across the desert to the next
station. That's all.
But while we all wait for the end of the planet, we can have fun and
enjoy our Porsches, too. There are no rules against that, yet. Unless,
of course, you move to California. ;~P

DS
95 993 Coupe
74 914

In article <com>,
The Dead Senator <com> wrote:
 

(some sentiments cut)
 

I see a bunch of petty dictators attempting to control people's lives.

 

For instance, let's get shale oil and coal synfuels on line.
 

I have to agree with the sentiments; however:

What I have seen is blind stupidity. For example: the requirement for
oxygenates in the fuel: Oxygenates lower your fuel efficiency and cost
extra energy in their manufacture.

Getting rid of lead was a good thing -- lead has to have scavengers
(which are corrosive) and is toxic.

I have also learned not to trust anything coming out of the
environmental movement without careful examination. As I posted earlier,
environmentalism is the refuge of the old Leftists, whose goal was
(still is) destruction of freedom and social (economic) mobility. Their
desire is pure control -- everybody else be damned.