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  1. #1
    rich
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    Avalon

    Not looking to get flamed....

    Have there been multiple issues of what last year was the "sludge"
    issue with the 3.0L engines. Have mine rebulit 20K ago last April 02
    and its starting to exhibit the same problems.

    Thoughts appreciated in good faith

    Rich

  2. #2
    MDT
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    Re: Avalon

    rich wrote:
     


    Better change your oil on time from now on. After one overhaul, you'd
    think you'd figured it out by now.


  3. #3
    Bob
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    Re: Avalon

    bigger oil drain channels from the heads back to the pan

    the oil was cooking and coking in the heads


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  4. #4
    rich
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    Re: Avalon

    The short of this story, reguardless of the BS that some were
    expressing on this list in Apl 02 when the first rebuild, is that th
    engine was rebuilt at 46,500 sludged up and pinging under load. First
    oil changes were done at 7,500 mile each with Mobil 1. Figured our
    newest car was worth the effort. My 88 Camry just turned 251,000 and
    my 93 pickup 201,000 last week. Been a faithful Toyota guy for years,
    couldn't complain!

    Dealer bad mouthed me and the wife , calling us liars, nice dealership
    huh?

    Next thing car was done and engine all set....

    Wife says that the oil change intervals were bogus at 7500 miles and
    she wanted to do what the repair manager said and change it every
    3000.

    Droped the son off last week and realized that the knocking is coming
    back and used the same "carbon build-up" test the dealer manager
    showed me , foot on the brake and torque up the motor to load it...
    shure enough its knocking again.

    Expect it to be covered but this is rediculious. So here we go again,
    didn't expect tohave to go thugh this again after the dealer service
    manager says last time it was our fault and that its a "good business
    decision" of Toyota and that if he had the chance he wouldn't cover it
    last time.

    Have to decide now what the story will be. My step sister in Michigan
    had her Lexus motor in her SUV changed with the same issue last fall.
    Hard to understand the sediment of others on this NG that say its just
    bad maintanence.



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  5. #5
    SoCalMike
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    Re: Avalon


     

    sediment... sludging. nice pun!



  6. #6
    Scott
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    Re: Avalon

    On 8 Sep 2003 18:01:44 -0700, net (rich) wrote:
     

    Just wondering...

    Did you have the oil changed at the dealer either time?


    Scott in Florida

  7. #7
    MDT
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    Re: Avalon

    Bob H wrote:
     

    No, it was the dirt in the oil that was cooking, but I thought it was
    from being too cold? The holes where the oil runs out of the head is the
    is a rectangle hole about 1.5" by about 2", so I dont think that was it
    either. Its from not changing his oil. He'd better have servcie slips,
    and all of these repairs MUST be OK'd by the DSM, its not a "done deal"
    as Mike would lead you to beleive.


  8. #8
    MDT
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    Re: Avalon

    rich wrote: 
    Well, your original post said it was the same symptoms, but if you've
    done it at 3000 miles, I'll put money its not sludge. Maybe you just
    have ping from low octane or carbon deposits?


  9. #9
    rich
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    Re: Avalon

    Is there any other way to clean carbon deposits other than a break down and clean ?

    Rich












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  10. #10
    IleneDover@mailcity.com
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    Re: Avalon

    Some in this NG are still in denial, believing Toyota can do no
    wrong. A bit of naiveté, but that's life. Toyota gave up on
    blaming 'poor maintenance practices,' when engines serviced at
    dealerships, within required maintenance standards, developed
    what Toyota calls 'gelling.' Apparently buying Toyota's was good
    for in the past. Giving up on a particular brand is simply
    foolish because of one that you owned developed a problem, as
    many in this NG are want to do.



    mike hunt


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