Ferrari: American GP UPDATE

WhiteZin2000 wrote: 
I've got to tell you - others in this group are going to probably call
this a SPOILER - even if the whole thing is a sham. Be careful.

But now that you have said it, I completely agree. I don't care who's
at fault (I smell FIA and Michelin), this is deplorable and F1 may not
recover in the US because of this. Unfuckingbelievable. At least the
fans (??) decided not to keep throwing debris on the track - I can see
how they might be extremely angry, but that is something you do not do
in auto racing.

M

--
It's a place where you will learn
To face your fears, retrace the years
And ride the whims of your mind
Commanding in another world
Suddenly, you hear and see
This magic new dimension

What a double standard. I just heard Bernie just left the track and
the race isn't half over.
With Ferrari having similar tire (or tyre :-) issues all season, they
never threw a race.
F1 will NOT be invitied back to America ANY time soon.
Pathetic behavior (or behaviour :-)
Now we can debate the shitty rules package...If the damn teams could
change tires (or tyres) like all other forms of motorsports we may have
had a race today.
It's going to be very interesting to see who loses the money on this
one. The track owners will be issuing refunds, but FIA needs to pony
up the cash for it. The track is not responsible for this sickening
lack of class...

your_mom wrote: 
I agree 100%!!!

M

--
It's a place where you will learn
To face your fears, retrace the years
And ride the whims of your mind
Commanding in another world
Suddenly, you hear and see
This magic new dimension

I was there (Along with Mr & Mrs Borland). What a joke. We were all
waiting, hoping that we'd see an actual race and not a repeat of
practice 3. We didn't see a race, we saw a Bridgestone Test day.

I sat near a young boy and his dad clad in Mark Webber gear. I'm still
not sure if the kid knows why his hero didn't race today. They left
after lap 10.

To my right was a couple from Costa Rica. They'd come to see Alonso.
They had no clue what was going on until I explained it to them. They
left at lap 15.

To my left was a couple from Indy. They said they had come to "check
out this Formula One thing". Needless to say, they saw all they needed
to see.

I thought the FISA/FOCA mess in 1982 was Formula One's lowest ebb. I
was wrong.

To Max Mosley. They are Cromwell's words, but they apply...

"You have sat too long here for any good you have been doing. Depart I
say, and let us have done with you. In the name of God, go!"


T308

"T308 (The serial number geek)" <com> wrote in message
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Always a pleasure to enjoy an oilcan of Foster's with Mister
T308... He had "seats" reserved, while we were in steerage
with the rest of the great unwashed, so our time was short
but still a good visit.

We left around lap 25, after 3+ hours driving (then parking)
and all the walking we didn't bother staying for the rest
of it. Not much point when there's little to no passing
and only six cars even running. There were people flipping
the bird and giving thumbs down to the drivers as they
passed, like they should have boycotted the race because
Michelins didn't work right on this particular track. The FIA
should have just added another damn chicane. I did get to
call my father for Father's Day and let him hear the Ferraris
scream by, which made his day. He'll have a good story to
go with his souvenir t-shirt now that all this crap happened.

As for track owners refunding tickets, it says "no rainchecks,
no refunds" on every ticket... Ain't that a bitch?

It was a mass exodus by the time we started walking out,
with lots of irate people yelling, in various languages. I think
I'll stick to the ALMS, vintage, and motorcycle stuff for
awhile, and steer clear of the USGP, NHRA, and NASCAR.
Two of those three due to the toothless drunken idiots that
spend half the day spilling beer on people and dry-humping
those unlucky enough to sit or walk near them. The F1 stuff
just irritates me because the rules seem all out of whack
and if they're so inflexible they refuse to put on a show, well,
"fuggem". I paid for a race, I wanna see a damn race.


It was nice to see Rubens up front though. :-)


__ __
-Matt- " -=O==-O=-- "

Matt wrote...

<<Always a pleasure to enjoy an oilcan of Foster's with Mister
T308... He had "seats" reserved, while we were in steerage
with the rest of the great unwashed, so our time was short
but still a good visit. >>

The pleasure was all mine! As a matter of fact, it was the only
pleasure I had the whole day.

Shall we enjoy Oil Cans in MCPDs living room next?

FORZA EURO ROADTRIP 2005!

T308

On 19 Jun 2005 12:07:28 -0700, "your_mom" <com>
wrote: 

Neither is the FIA, nor FOM, nor even Michelin: The seven teams who
refused to take the start unless they were given an unfair advantage
are to blame, Renault, McLaren-Mercedes and BMW-Williams, who have
been quietly destroying the sport from within for years, BAR-Honda,
Toyota, Red Bull-Cosworth, and Sauber-Petronas(Ferrari).

"T308 (The serial number geek)" <com> wrote in message
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I like the way you think...


If we wanted to do it up "Ugly American" style
we could switch over to High Life tallboys and
show up barefoot...


Back on topic, was Ferrari the only team to disagree
with the chicane idea? If so, that'll bring out the
Ferrari-haters in droves... Like it matters.

This sort of reminds me of when the CART racers
were blacking out at Texas and wouldn't race. It's
a tough call since they'd be rolling chicanes themselves
going through that turn on Michelins, which can't be
all that safe either. I can see why they did what they
did, but it comes across kinda lame considering this
is supposed to be the pinnacle of motorsport and the
teams on Michelins took their balls and went home
(no pun intended) rather than race with a disadvantage.

Was it safety, or sour grapes?

Survey says?



-Matt- "..."