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Toyota Trucks: American 4wd trucks??

  1. #1
    TANKIE
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    American 4wd trucks??

    I know 3 people that have what should be good used American trucks. I own 2
    Toyotas and a Lexus, and don't expect Toyota reliability from US trucks, BUT
    look at these 3. All one owner, v8, fwd. They were all serviced regularly and
    not abused or thrashed by owners.

    97 Ford, 62000 miles, replace engine $3200

    94 Chevy, 85000 miles, burns quart of oil every 2500 miles, smokes out exhaust.
    needs rebuilt already.

    96 Chevy 63000 miles, replace trans $2600, fix broke fwd $450

    I have about 340,000 on my Toyota fleet and never had major issues like these.
    My '88 pickup has 128,000 miles and burns NO oil.

    Any of you hear of similar stories with American trucks? With similar Toyota
    trucks? Is this real typical of US trucks? I thought that at least the pickup
    trucks would be well built.

  2. #2
    vlj
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    Re: American 4wd trucks??

    "TANKIE" <com> sez:

    <snip> 
    Toyota 
    pickup 

    I've had my first and last GM truck, a '97 Suburban. It had a creampuff
    existence and regularly serviced by a friend of the family gentleman and
    seemed like a predictable buy. I got it 4 yrs. old with 47,000 mi. on the
    clock. From there to the 97,000 mi. it had on it when I finally got rid of
    it, I had to replace:

    AC compressor and purge system - $1000
    Transmission rebuild - $2000
    Intake manifold leak - $600
    2 alternators @ $150 ea. - $300
    2 oil lines @ $65 ea. - $130
    front ball joints - $700
    brake vacuum booster - $400

    The transmission failure & the intake manifold leak are notorious on this
    and related models. Other things waiting to grenade are the fuel pump
    module and the Eaton limited slip differential. I couldn't take it anymore
    and dumped it & now drive a nice new Tundra Double-Cab.

    Good wrenchin' to ya,
    VLJ
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  3. #3
    vlj
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    Re: American 4wd trucks??

    "vlj" <v@l.j> sez:

    <snip> 

    Forgot to mention that the hunk of junk was a "Made in Mexico" import ... my
    Tundra is made in Illinois, USA.

    Good wrenchin' to ya,
    VLJ
    --
    If it has tits or tires, its gonna be trouble.



  4. #4
    Barry
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    Re: American 4wd trucks??

    On Thu, 15 Jan 2004 02:37:53 GMT, "vlj" <v@l.j> wrote:
     

    It sounds like it didn't have a creampuff existence. It sounds more
    like it may have been abused. I know several poeple who own GM truck
    vehicles of around that vintage, most have more than 100k miles on
    them, however you seem to have had substantially more problems.. I
    don't doubt your problems, but I have to wonder if your vehicle led a
    harsh life or was just a lemon.

    Either way, I think you'll be very happy with your new Toyota Tundra.

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  5. #5
    Ben
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    Re: American 4wd trucks??

    http://www.autooninfo.net/



  6. #6
    Skip
    Guest

    Re: American 4wd trucks??

    On Thu, 15 Jan 2004 02:39:45 GMT, "vlj" <v@l.j> wrote:
     


    Tundras are made in Princeton, Indiana, USA

  7. #7
    Brian
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    Re: American 4wd trucks??

    My '86 Ford Ranger...nothing but trouble, from day 1. My '86 Toyota
    pickup...now with 276,000 miles...nothing but joy and still running!!!


    "TANKIE" <com> wrote in message
    news:aol.com... 

    BUT 
    and 
    exhaust. 
    these. 
    Toyota 
    pickup 



  8. #8
    vlj
    Guest

    Re: American 4wd trucks??

    "Skip" <com> sez:

    <snip> 

    Doh! At least I got the first letter right ...

    Good wrenchin' to ya,
    VLJ
    --



  9. #9
    vlj
    Guest

    Re: American 4wd trucks??

    "Barry S." <org> sez:
    <snip> 

    Lemon and a GM. I'm an anal-retentive (yes, it *is* spelled with a hyphen)
    Mechanical Engineer that does all my own maintenance since back in the
    mid-sixties and currently support a fleet of 3 cars, 3 street bikes, 5
    dirtbikes and a lawnmower. Something always needs to be wrenched. :-)

    The transmission failure was caused the well-known valve-body defect where
    the TCC (Torque Converter Clutch) solenoid wears away at the soft body
    aluminum and then gets caught in the ridge and not longer will allow the
    converter to go into lockup. When driven at speed in that condition, the
    hysterisys heating of the transmission fluid cooks the tranny. The fix is a
    Sonnax stainless steel sleeve inserted into the valve body after being bored
    out. Tranny guys are still doing this "fix" on '02 models with the 4L60E.

    When the transmission was opened up, the sun reaction shell (part of the
    final planetary gear drive) was about to grenade with a crack at the base of
    the spline around 65% of the circumference. Yet another "well-known"
    problem in these transmissions that has spawned a cottage industry making
    replacement 'hardened' parts.

    I'm just underwhelmed at how the thing was engineered and put together.
    Maybe I'm just partial to the Asian marques for having worked on them for so
    long and being more accustomed to their way of doing things. That damn
    Suburban gave me more gried than all my Hondas, Subarus, Toyotas and
    Mitsubishis combined.
     

    Indeed.

    Good wrenchin' to ya,
    VLJ
    --
    If it has tits or tires, its gonna be trouble.



  10. #10
    Skip
    Guest

    Re: American 4wd trucks??

    On Thu, 15 Jan 2004 13:47:01 GMT, "vlj" <v@l.j> wrote:
     

    Hey, you were only one state off.


 

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