Mazda Miata: Air filter - Jackson Racing or K&N

In article <unix-consult.com>,
Timo Geusch <co.uk> wrote:
 

I'm not sure which (K&N or JR) passes the most dirt, but both are
inferior as filters to the OEM paper cartridge. All three make the same
power, so the only issue is how much extra dirt you want in your engine.

FWIW, I had a JR CAI for a couple of years. I'm back to the stock airbox
with a paper filter and a Randall duct, and wish I'd never had the JR. I
worry a little about the unnecessary wear it caused, without any real
benefit.

--
Lanny Chambers, St. Louis, USA
'94C
the alignment page:
http://www.hummingbirds.net/alignment.html

Lanny Chambers <net> wrote:
 

You seem to be getting grumpy in your old age. You got about 20
additional hp out of your CAI. That is a lot of power for relatively
little money.

Think of the glass being half full, instead of half empty.

Leon
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In article <com>,
net (Leon van Dommelen) wrote:
 

No doubt true, but irrelevant to this discussion.
 

Nah, I think I recall estimating 10-12 from the CAI + hi-flow cat +
muffler + timing bump. I'll stand by that, but I no longer believe the
CAI had anything to do with it. It did improve throttle response a tiny
bit, but my current Randall duct lets me use 87 octane in 90-degree
weather, which the JR CAI would not. Further, I suspect the JR CAI's
location 1) impedes cooling by blocking radiator airflow, and 2) results
in airbox heatsoaking at any speed. Too high a price to pay for a minor
throttle response benefit.

If cold air is the goal, suck it up, drill the hole in your firewall,
and install a Randall.

--
Lanny Chambers, St. Louis, USA
'94C
the alignment page:
http://www.hummingbirds.net/alignment.html

Lanny Chambers <net> wrote:
 

Well, in
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=CAI+JR+group:rec.autos.makers.mazda.miata +author:Lanny&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&scoring=d&selm=lanny-2204990105010001%40iits0350.inlink.com&rnum=44
L. Chambers wrote: 

Does 15 rwhp sound as 20 hp to you if 133 hp is about 100 at the
rear wheels? It does to me.

In
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=CAI+JR+group:rec.autos.makers.mazda.miata +author:Lanny&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&scoring=d&selm=lanny-2803992250410001%40iits0217.inlink.com&rnum=45
L. Chambers wrote: 

It seems to me then, that the facts as stated implied that the
CAI was essential to the claimed 20 hp power gain. (In addition,
the other items have negligible cost compared to a CAI.)

Just asking of course. One likes to get those things straight,
doesn't one?

Leon
--
Leon van Dommelen Bozo, the White 96 Sebring Miata ,)
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EXIT THE INTERSTATES (Jamie Jensen)

In article <com>,
net (Leon van Dommelen) wrote:
 

The "20 hp power gain" is your claim, not mine--I always use RWHP, since
it's all that can be documented without unreasonable effort. But
hindsight always helps clarify things--removing the JR CAI made
surprisingly little difference in how the car drove. I am not ashamed to
correct myself when I've guessed wrong.

This isn't a guess: the main problem with the JR CAI is that it's a
piece of junk. It doesn't fit most Miatas with enough clearance to
prevent cracking due to vibration, and the most insidious cracks can't
be seen without disassembling the airbox from the MAS adapter.

Shouldn't you be xeroxing syllabi for the fall semester or something? I
thought your field was fluid dynamics, not ancient history...

--
Lanny Chambers, St. Louis, USA
'94C
the alignment page:
http://www.hummingbirds.net/alignment.html

Lanny Chambers <net> wrote:
 

We like to bring out people talents. Say, the grumpy even grumpier.

But I better start getting ready for my sabbatical...

Leon [:}
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Leon van Dommelen Bozo, the White 96 Sebring Miata ,)
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EXIT THE INTERSTATES (Jamie Jensen)

Good exchange!

Ya'all are the greatest!

Chris
92BB&T

"Leon van Dommelen" <net> wrote in message
news:com... 
until 
the 
free-flow 

In article <supernews.com>,
"Chris D'Agnolo" <net> wrote:
 

Well, Leon, it looks like our ratings are up.

What's next? Our own TV show? We could call it "Last Cynic Standing."

--
Lanny Chambers, St. Louis, USA
'94C
the alignment page:
http://www.hummingbirds.net/alignment.html