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BMW: About those "nasty" E39 handbrakes...

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    Michael
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    About those "nasty" E39 handbrakes...

    Dave Plowman <co.uk> wrote in message news:<co.uk>... 

    My experiences differ here.

    IMO, rust only "holds" when you have left the car unused and with
    handbrakes applied for a long time and the brake shoes have rusted
    together with the linings or drums.

     


    The others being?

     


    I concur with you on your observations. I don't think the 540
    handbrakes are better. Our E39 handbrakes are less than impressive -
    just adequate. My handbrake has to be pulled back almost to the end
    before the car can be safely held stationary. I have to pull fairly
    hard to get it there.

    As you noted, some women would have difficulties pulling back the
    handbrake sufficiently far to depend solely on the handbrake to hold
    the car.

    However, I always also apply the foot brake when waiting in traffic on
    an incline. I use both sets of brakes. When I move away I swap the
    foot brake for the throttle and simultaneously gently release the
    handbrake while engaging 1st gear. I found it a fun maneuver actually
    - sort of like everything working in unison.

    For parking the car on an incline I always leave the car in 1st gear
    or reverse as well as applying the handbrake to the point of holding
    the vehicle still. I've never had any problems.

    When my handbrakes do slip they do so slowly. It's not an ON/OFF
    situation.



    Michael

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    Michael
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    Re: About those "nasty" E39 handbrakes...

    Dave Plowman <co.uk> wrote in message news:<co.uk>... 

    Our differences are noted.

     


    I understand your being upset about the handbrake. You really should
    take it to your dealer and "let them have it". I think the problem is
    universal even if some people's handbrakes like mine do work.

     


    Sounds like sloppy work on top of poor design, I think you really
    should bring it up with BMW in a forceful manner. That's the only way
    to make any difference. You seem to have a substantial case to
    complain about.

     


    I can't comment on the design as I'm not a brake expert. I do agree
    the handbrake is only adequate at best (mine does hold my car on steep
    hills every time).


     


    I think the problem is not how much force is required to set the
    brake. If much more force were applied I think one might actually
    damage the system. The problem is the poor design as you've noted.

     


    My handbrake does hold my car on its own in stop-and-go on an incline.
    I just conveniently park my right foot on the brake pedal as it's
    also a safe thing to do.

     


    I vaguely recall Volvo earning a bad reputation in Canada about 25-30
    years ago but I'm not sure it had to do with surging. OTOH, Audi did
    have a problem with US drivers claiming the Audi 100s surged (bunk).
    At any rate, you misunderstood my comment. I meant my car will slide
    slowly when I don't apply the handbrake fully. It does so while I am
    playing with the brake lever and *not* on its own after I have left
    the car unattended. My brakes have never failed. Perhaps it was
    because I always park in gear. I sometimes test to see if the
    transmission would hold the car on its own. Regardless I still apply
    the handbrake.


    Michael

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    Dave
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    Re: About those "nasty" E39 handbrakes...

    In article <google.com>,
    Michael Low <inter.net> wrote: 

    Just as a follow up, I took my 528 for an MOT today. This involves
    testing the brakes on a rolling road. And it should have failed. The
    mechanic has tested many of these and realises it's a design fault, so let
    it go through. They were in balance to within 3%.

    Its previous and first MOT was carried out by the dealer with the fault
    on the handbrake I documented earlier.

    One other interesting point. For part of the emissions test you have to
    hold the engine speed steady at just over 2000 rpm. While trying to do
    this, the speed increased considerably of its own accord after about 30
    seconds. Same thing when trying again.

    --
    *I must always remember that I'm unique, just like everyone else. *

    Dave Plowman co.uk London SW 12
    RIP Acorn

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    Michael
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    Re: About those "nasty" E39 handbrakes...

    Dave Plowman <co.uk> wrote in message news:<co.uk>... 


    Perhaps BMW figures no one uses the "parking" brakes anymore. I'm
    surprised I haven't seen a recall mentioned in the US.

     


    That's pretty disconcerting. Do you think it's the software? If so
    there may be a revision for it if it's a known problem. It's another
    reason why I try to stay away from AUTOBOXes. Especially with fancy
    sport modes ...etc, they just get too complicated. Complicated
    software always has bugs.

    My car went through a similar test for emissions last Fall but nothing
    unusual was noted.


    Michael


 

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