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  1. #1
    entropy_magnet
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    97 Explorer XL clunk and 4WD issues

    Howdy folks.

    Having a bit of an issue with my wife's 97 XL(control track). As a
    preface, this whole 4WD/auto tranny thing is a bit out of my experience,
    I'm used to manual trannies, small cars, and motorcycles.

    Just for a bit of history, we had a new transmission put in about 2
    months ago(the O/D was disengaging after 45 minutes or an hour of
    driving, solenoid, clutches and various other parts were bad-probably due
    to towing with O/D engaged amongst other things).

    The tranny seemed to have been working nicely with no problems until this
    weekend. We were at a campground, it rained pretty good, so I put the
    selector into 4WD Low(perhaps foolishly), just in case. The 4WD
    indicators just blinked(its on the 2 minute/6 blink pattern) so googling
    past posts, that looks to be an axle sensor or the GEM module. The part
    thats got me worried now is that in low speed, tight right turns, we get
    a horrific clunking/shuddering. I did manage to drive it in to work this
    morning without experiencing the clunk, just by being a bit smooth and
    careful.

    Are these two things likely to be related, or am I looking at bad
    sensor/gem AND bad u/cv joints or something like that? Any opinions on
    whether this might be covered under "transmission" troubles(thus
    warrantied) at Aamco?

    TIA


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    Vic
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    Re: 97 Explorer XL clunk and 4WD issues

    In the '97 and later versions of Control Trac, when you select either
    4WD-Hi or 4WD-Lo the transfer case clutch pack is engaged continuously
    to lock the front and rear drive shafts together. This should only be
    used in poor traction conditions or going straight ahead as when the
    truck turns, the rear wheels go a shorter distance than the front and
    since the axles are locked together, something has to give! Either the
    wheels drag on the ground or something breaks or pops in the drive
    train. Shouldn't be trying that! In 4WD-Auto, the clutch pack in the
    transfer case is periodically pulsed to close, allowing drive line
    bind-up to be quickly relieved, and that engagement time is regulated by
    the GEM looking at the relieve speeds of the front and rear drive
    shafts. If the rear is going faster than the front, for example, it must
    be slipping so increase the clutch engagement time in 10% increments
    until the speeds match or the front is going faster than the rear.

    The flashing lights mean "something" is wrong in the automatic system
    (usually a bad speed sensor or electrical connection, worst case a bad
    GEM or clutch pack), or low range is not getting engaged (bad limit
    switch or motor or just stuck). In the failure mode, the 4WD-Auto
    reverts to 2WD, only, but I believe you still engage and lock the clutch
    pack in the other positions. Sounds like you may have a problem with the
    Auto system (which is designed to handle rain and wet streets and such),
    but the rest "was" OK. Hopefully nothing vital broke during that
    experiment.

    =Vic=
    Bear Gap, PA

    entropy_magnet wrote: 

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    entropy_magnet
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    Re: 97 Explorer XL clunk and 4WD issues

    Vic Klein <net> wrote in news:net:
     
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    Swung by Aamco yesterday, They pulled the test drove it and pulled the
    codes from the transfer case(transfer case needs service and several
    failure codes stick in my mind), and said the transfer case was probably
    fried, or at the least the motor in it. Not having the 1600 they quoted
    me as probable, I took it home and disconnected the battery to reset the
    fault states, as well as the 4wd engage command(I suspect). This has
    made the symptoms go away for now, though I will be checking sensors/GEM
    etc, soonest, and babying the truck until then.

    Thank you for the input.

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  4. #4
    Bill
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    Re: 97 Explorer XL clunk and 4WD issues

    On 31 Oct 2003 20:55:08 GMT, "entropy_magnet" <com>
    wrote:
     

    AAMCO has a very poor reputation.
    If I were you (admittedly, I'm not), I'd check with a local tranny
    shop if i could.
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    Bill Funk
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