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  1. #1
    Friend
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    96 Caravan Transmission Slippage

    Recently I had the filter on my 96 Caravan (3.0L with 3 speed) changed and
    the Mr. Lube where it was done topped up the transmission fluid with Dexron
    III-Mercon. Shortly thereafter I experienced slippage and surging
    particularly when the van was cold. I returned to the shop and after some
    discussion about their use of Dexron they drained the fluid through the dip
    stick tube and added about 4L of ATF+3. Initially this improved performance
    but soon it started to slip again and I returned to the shop and had them
    drain the entire system and 10L of ATF+3 was installed. However I'm still
    experiencing a slight slippage when cold starting. Is it possible that the
    Dexron has caused some damage? I never experienced any transmission problems
    before visiting Mr. Lube. The van has about 78,000 miles. Any ideas?

    Jack



  2. #2
    EdO
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    Re: 96 Caravan Transmission Slippage



    Friend of the Doktor wrote: 


    From All-Par (http://www.allpar.com/fix/trans.html) All Chrysler
    four-speed automatic transmissions* are very sensitive to the quality of
    the transmission fluid. Only use the ATF+[3 or 4] in these
    transmissions. Do not use Dexron or Mercon.

    Ed


  3. #3
    Brendan
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    Re: 96 Caravan Transmission Slippage

    The battle may not be too hard for you to fight. The shop knows it put
    Dexron in, and the transmission in your van MUST have ATF +3 or +4.




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  4. #4
    ldenn2
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    Re: 96 Caravan Transmission Slippage

    These trans sometimes have a short life, a weak link. Had mine replaced
    @86000 for about 1500.00 the owners manual may say Dextron is OK to use,
    but it will damage your trans. It destroys electrical parts. May take a
    year or so, but it will. Go to a dealer parts counter and get genuine
    Chrysler fluid recommended for your specific auto.
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  5. #5
    Dan
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    Re: 96 Caravan Transmission Slippage

    Idiots. None of these places I have gone to seem to know you have to use +3
    or +4 in these. Even my 88 Aries needed it and its a three speed automatic.
    They put Dexron into that and the tranny started to act up right away. Put
    in =3 and its fine.

    They damn near killed my 90 LeBaron with Dexron saying they had an additive
    that converted Dexron to +3. BS.

    The stuff didn't do a damn thing and I had to go toAutozone, buy a case of
    +3 and they put that it. After that, the trannie runs great.

    Yet, both places I dealt with were ignorant of +3. I wonder how many
    trannies have died because of people thinking they were doing the right
    thing by having their transmission fluid changed. How much of a bad rap on
    Mopar transmission is just because they failed to get the work out about the
    fluid.



  6. #6
    James
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    Re: 96 Caravan Transmission Slippage

    What kind of ATF is to be used in a '90 Caravan 3.3 with the automatic
    overdrive (604, I believe) transmission?
    What happens if you put Dexron/Mercon in it (and what is the
    difference between the fluids)?


  7. #7
    Gene
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    Re: 96 Caravan Transmission Slippage

    James Goforth wrote:
     

    Chrysler-spec ATF+3 or ATF+4.

    Dexron has different friction characteristics. If you use Dexron you
    will save a little bit of money, the different friction characteristics
    will cause the clutches and lockup converter to get grabbier and get
    damaged as the computer tries in vain to compensate for the non-spec
    fluid, and you then will pay about a hundred times more money than you
    saved by using Dexron in the first place, to get your transmission fixed.

    DON'T USE DEXRON in it.

    PERIOD.

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    gad
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    Re: 96 Caravan Transmission Slippage

    And don't believe anyone who tells you they have an additive that "makes
    Dexron/Mercon Chrysler compatible" either. Stick with the real stuff.

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  9. #9
    James
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    Re: 96 Caravan Transmission Slippage

    Not to be redundant, but is the above mentioned ATF compatible with
    the older Chryslers manufactured even before this new ATF came out?
    Or are you better off using Dexron in the old cars which came with it?
    Unless that would just be a waste of money (I don't know how much more
    expensive the new stuff is).

    86 Lebaron (3 spd auto)
    90 and 89 Caravan (604's)

    BTW is the above mentioned LeBaron supposed to have a lock-up converter?
    I thought pretty much everything had one by that year (it's a 2.2).


  10. #10
    Gene
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    Re: 96 Caravan Transmission Slippage

    James Goforth wrote:
     
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    A 3-speed Torqueflite without lockup converter can use Dexron.

    ANY 604 can NOT.

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    Good question, in this context; and I don't know about that particular
    combination.




 

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