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Ford Explorer: 94 Explorer w/ ecc codes 176 AND 177. Advise??

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    Nathan
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    94 Explorer w/ ecc codes 176 AND 177. Advise??

    My 94 Explorer w/117,000 miles has been running very poorly lately.
    The symptoms only occur after driving on the highway for a while
    (about 50 to 100 miles). It loses power and runs really rough like
    its misfireing and blows carbon out the exaust. I checked the stored
    codes and got a 176 (HEGO Sensor indicates system lean [RH]) and a 177
    (HEGO Sensor indicates system rich [LH]).


    I did some research on these groups and decided to replace the fuel
    pressure regulator.

    I am basically just solicitating advise from anyone. Is this a good
    place to start? Any other things I should look at or consider.
    Thanks in anvance for any and all responces.

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    singletn
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    Re: 94 Explorer w/ ecc codes 176 AND 177. Advise??

    Nathan, what were you thinking when you wrote:
    : My 94 Explorer w/117,000 miles has been running very poorly lately.
    : The symptoms only occur after driving on the highway for a while
    : (about 50 to 100 miles). It loses power and runs really rough like
    : its misfireing and blows carbon out the exaust. I checked the stored
    : codes and got a 176 (HEGO Sensor indicates system lean [RH]) and a 177
    : (HEGO Sensor indicates system rich [LH]).

    Nathan:

    Start here http://www.glue.umd.edu/~singletn/web/pages/fuelpr.html

    for more help in diagnosing your problem. Note that my engine
    stored a different code for the HEGO rich condition. My Explorer
    was also a '92 so maybe the codes changed by '94. I can't remember
    when they changed the engine computer software but I was thinking
    it wasn't until '95.

    Good luck,

    jeff

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    dicko
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    Re: 94 Explorer w/ ecc codes 176 AND 177. Advise??

    I'd be interested in what you find out. Mine does the same thing.

    When I take a cross country trip, several hundred miles out it starts
    sputtering for a few minutes and then recovers. One one trip from
    Raleigh NC to Chicago, it did this the whole way. The codes are the
    same as what you reported. I replaced the O2 and MAF sensors, but a
    year later on another trip, the same thing happened. Mechanics cant
    find any problems.

    The car runs fine during normal daily driving to/from work/errands.

    I basically dont go on any long trips with it anymore.

    Sorry I cant help, but you're not the only one with the problem if
    thats any consolation. My theory runs something toward fuel injectors
    icing up or otherwise not injecting but I 'm just showing my ignorance
    here. The problem goes away when the car sits for awhile, then
    reoccurs after a few hundred miles.

    dickm

    On 2 Dec 2003 20:54:38 -0800, net (Nathan) wrote:
     


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    Nathan
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    Re: 94 Explorer w/ ecc codes 176 AND 177. Advise??

    That sound like exactly the same problem. Me and my wife decided it
    is just a home body truck cause it doesn't like long trips. I too had
    the mass airflow sensor replaced a couple years back and it did not
    help. The problem seems to be getting worse. In fact, I drove it
    during thanksgiving break for 450 miles each way and it did it the
    entire way at 13 mpg. I don't think its an injector issue because it
    is blowing carbon out the exaust which tells me its is trying to burn
    too much fuel. (ie not a clogged injector). I ordered a fuel pressure
    regulator. I will post to this thread if this does or does not solve
    the problem.

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    Nathan
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    Re: 94 Explorer w/ ecc codes 176 AND 177. Advise??

    singletn <umd.edu> wrote in message news:<bqknon$pd5$wam.umd.edu>... 
    Thanks for the link. It will be helpful when I replace my FPR. As
    far as the codes go, there are two O2 sensors with different codes for
    each one. The RH for lean and rich are 172 and 173 respectively. The
    codes changed in '95 when ford started using the ECC-V computer.

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    dicko
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    Re: 94 Explorer w/ ecc codes 176 AND 177. Advise??

    Oh, I forgot that the fuel milage dropped down to around 13, just like
    yours.

    I didnt think it was the fuel pressure because my codes were from the
    same side, RH I think... i'd read the codes after a long trip and all
    I'd see RH lean, RH rich, RH lean, RH rich, RH lean... well, you get
    the idea.

    I never noticed any carbon/exhaust smoke out the back of mine. Of
    course, I never really looked. I was too worried about getting home.

    Dick

    On 4 Dec 2003 16:45:54 -0800, net (Nathan) wrote:
     


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    nathan
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    Re: 94 Explorer w/ ecc codes 176 AND 177. Advise??

    Well, I replaced the fuel pressure regulator and no change. Guess I'll keep
    digging around.

    "dicko" <com> wrote in message
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