Mitsubishi: 94 1.8 Liter Eclipse Still Won't Start !! Mechanics are baffled.

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Back in September, I made the posting that follows below. In the meantime,
several mechanics have made attempts at trying to resolve my problem, and
are still baffled. The
only think I haven't done is taken it to the local Mitsubishi Dealer where
the car was originally purchased.

It's getting fuel, it's getting spark , compression ok - theoretically it
should start. Timing OK as well. Starter good.

Sparkplugs and cables, battery, ECU, and fuel filter have all been changed.
All fuses have been checked. Injectors are firing.

The car has 135,000 miles and I've taken very good care of it. I've had a
couple of problems in the past w/ rear calipers and the torque converter,
but other than that, this car has been pretty good to me. I was hoping to
get another year out of the thing, which is why I'm haven't been willing to
take it to the Mistu dealer.

If anyone has any suggestions, I'd appreciate to hear from yah.

Thaks

Joe4
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Sep '04

I've pretty much baby'd this car, changing the oil as necessary. I've
changed the timing belt. Have had several tune-ups, among other things. When
I broke down, there was no loud bang. I figured it might be the fuel pump or
something electrical. The starter is ok..and the engine cranks, but it just
doesn't want to start.

I've done and checked the following:

Checked Fuses
Changed Fuel Filter
Changed Sparkplugs: Getting Spark
Fuel Pressure Test: OK
Checked Distributor / Timing / Rotor OK

The next thing I was going to do was give the engine a compression test.
After that, I don't know. I don't want to change the ECU unless I have to.
I've read about the capacitor issues with those things. Is there any way of
checking them ??

ANy suggestions will be greatly appreciated.

Joseph ROIV

Sure sounds like an ignition modulator to me...


"Joseph R. Olivier IV" <net> wrote in message
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Ignition

Try re-checking the spark tiiming ? (Check Crankshaft position
sensor - if fitted - is it OK? ) Is the spark strong enough -
sometimes a spark will show in free air but be too weak when under
cylinder pressure.

Fuel

Also try putting a a small amount of gasoline - say 5 ? drops -
directly into each cylinder via the spark plug hole, replace plugs
and see if she fires for a few seconds ...


On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 20:03:12 -0400, "Joseph R. Olivier IV"
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On some engines, the cam can be (accidentally) positioned 180 degrees out,
when changing the belt. Would the crank sensor known that. And also,
because of the type of engine, if 180 out, would the valves crash into the
pistons. Just my 2 cents.
Are you getting any error codes from the "new" ECU


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To check the capacitors, you have to remove the ecu and take the cover off.
Take a look at the capacitors for any material that may have oozed out.

You say it's getting fuel. Are you sure fuel is getting in the cylinders or
did you just check pressure.
You can put a noid light on the injectors to see if they are actually
getting signal.


"Joseph R. Olivier IV" <net> wrote in message
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Yes...the answer was THE IGNITION COIL/ part of the distributor on the 1.8.
It was getting spark, but not enough. Thanks for all those who responded

JROIV

 
 
Whoops, I didn't finish .

Back in September, I made the posting that follows below. In the meantime,
several mechanics have made attempts at trying to resolve my problem, and
are still baffled. The
only think I haven't done is taken it to the local Mitsubishi Dealer where
the car was originally purchased.

It's getting fuel, it's getting spark , compression ok - theoretically it
should start. Timing OK as well. Starter good.

Sparkplugs and cables, battery, ECU, and fuel filter have all been changed.
All fuses have been checked. Injectors are firing.

The car has 135,000 miles and I've taken very good care of it. I've had a
couple of problems in the past w/ rear calipers and the torque converter,
but other than that, this car has been pretty good to me. I was hoping to
get another year out of the thing, which is why I'm haven't been willing to
take it to the Mistu dealer.

If anyone has any suggestions, I'd appreciate to hear from yah.

Thaks

Joe4
net

-----------------
Sep '04

I've pretty much baby'd this car, changing the oil as necessary. I've
changed the timing belt. Have had several tune-ups, among other things. When
I broke down, there was no loud bang. I figured it might be the fuel pump or
something electrical. The starter is ok..and the engine cranks, but it just
doesn't want to start.

I've done and checked the following:

Checked Fuses
Changed Fuel Filter
Changed Sparkplugs: Getting Spark
Fuel Pressure Test: OK
Checked Distributor / Timing / Rotor OK

The next thing I was going to do was give the engine a compression test.
After that, I don't know. I don't want to change the ECU unless I have to.
I've read about the capacitor issues with those things. Is there any way of
checking them ??

ANy suggestions will be greatly appreciated.

Joseph ROIV