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  1. #1
    none@specified.com
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    '92 Taurus Wagon Not Turning Over

    The history is:
    1+ month ago the car started acting up; about every 4th time it
    wouldn't turn over, though the lights and other electrical stuff
    worked. There was corrosion on the battery terminals, so I concluded
    that either they weren't getting good contact, or that the battery was
    going <no starts seemed to occur after the car had been driven a
    couple of places>.
    Cleaned battery terminals and problem went away for several days.
    Re-occured, so I bought new battery. Problem could be worked around
    by thumping the terminals <not too hard>. Didn't have a chance to put
    new battery in <too busy>, and then the problem went away completly,
    so last week I took the battery back <needed the money>.
    Yesterday problem returned. Car didn't crank; rapped smartly on top
    of the battery leads with fist, car started normally. Today car
    wouldn't turn over for wife, her messing with terminals didn't fix.
    When I got home I rapped on the terminals again and the car cranked
    weakly, then started. Next time I shut it off it wouldn't crank at
    all. Cleaned terminals again, no crank. Replaced battery, still no
    crank. All electrics working, radio, headlights, etc. Headlights do
    not dim when attempting to crank.
    Both batteries show 12+ volts.
    When attempting to start I can hear the solenoid clicking, but the
    starter motor doesn't engage. Rapping on both with pliers improved
    reaction to crank attempt marginally <*click* to *click-errrrrrrr*- no
    crank though.
    I'm going to pull the starter to have it tested as soon as the
    hurricane lets me, but as this is my first Ford, I wanted to poll the
    experts to see if there is something else that might be going on?
    Ignition modules? Starter relays? What is confusing me is that if
    it's the starter, why did messing with the battery make any
    difference, unless it's the leads themselves? Seems to me the
    negative clamp is a little sloppy, and even when cranked tight doesn't
    seem to grab much of the post, but even so, it's nice and tight- I've
    seen much worse work fine.

    Sorry for the long post, any help appreciated.

    Dragon

  2. #2
    The
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    Re: '92 Taurus Wagon Not Turning Over

    Your cables might be corroded, might check the voltage on the posts during
    attempted cranking, if it barely changes then you should move towards the
    starter following the cables to their terminus.
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  3. #3
    jim
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    Re: '92 Taurus Wagon Not Turning Over

    com wrote: 
    stay with the battery, thats the problem, forget about the starter for
    now: go to auto zone and buy a $1.98 battery terminal brush.. then take
    off the battery terminals and use the battery terminal brush to clean up
    the inside of the terminal and the top of the post of the battery where
    the termnials are attached.. Hitting on them with Pliers is not gonna
    correct the problem(even if it gets it to start). put the terminals
    back on and the problem is gone... pretty good fix for $2.00. or you
    might just need two new battery terminals(cost about $1.98 each)....

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    none@specified.com
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    Re: '92 Taurus Wagon Not Turning Over

    Voltage drops about 3/10's, not nearly what it should, IMO. I've
    checked the other ends of the cables and all of those connectors are
    tight and undamaged. I did notice that the starter, which sits on the
    front of the engine, has a lot of dirt build up, leading me to wonder
    if it's also getting a lot of water in it <lotsa rain here in PA over
    the last few months>.

    Thanks for your help.

    On Thu, 18 Sep 2003 05:06:11 GMT, "The Bathtub Admiral"
    <ca> wrote:
     


  5. #5
    none@specified.com
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    Re: '92 Taurus Wagon Not Turning Over

    Battery post brush was the first thing I bought, brought terminals and
    posts to a shine each time I cleaned them. Clamps currently installed
    with felt washers underneath them, and anti-corrosive applied to
    exterior of clamps and posts <not at mating surfaces>. I was looking
    for some dielectric grease to put on the posts but Wal-mart didn't
    sell any. Do you think that might help?

    Thanks for your help.

    On Thu, 18 Sep 2003 10:00:46 GMT, jim <com> wrote:
     


  6. #6
    tom
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    Re: '92 Taurus Wagon Not Turning Over

    The problem could be the solenoid contacts are not making a good contact or
    a bad connection or cable. To check the connections I always disable the
    ignition so the car will not start. Have someone start the car and check for
    voltage drop at differnt places until you find the problem. A voltmeter or a
    multimeter set to voltage setting will tell you the difference in voltage
    between two points. You have to have the ciruit under load (have someone hit
    the starter). These are good articles that explain how to check for voltage
    drops:

    http://www.labscopes.com/pg08.htm

    http://www.fluke.com/application_notes/automotive/circuit.asp?AGID=1&SID=103

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  7. #7
    Farley
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    Re: '92 Taurus Wagon Not Turning Over

    Sounds like the solenoid to me. It's a fifteen dollar part. If it isn't
    the source of the current problem, at eleven years it was getting ready
    to be the source of some problem.

    com wrote:
     


  8. #8
    none
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    Re: '92 Taurus Wagon Not Turning Over

    Thanks to all who responded- I removed the starter this morning and
    took it apart looking for obvious defects. I didn't need to look much
    further than the hunks of copper that fell out of it when I seperated
    the casing halves- 2 rotor brushes were wiped completly out, and one
    rotor bar was melted and torn out of it's mounting.

    New starter in and it works fine now.

    Dragon


 

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