Ford: '92 Taurus Wagon Not Turning Over
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'92 Taurus Wagon Not Turning Over
The history is:
1+ month ago the car started acting up; about every 4th time it
wouldn't turn over, though the lights and other electrical stuff
worked. There was corrosion on the battery terminals, so I concluded
that either they weren't getting good contact, or that the battery was
going <no starts seemed to occur after the car had been driven a
couple of places>.
Cleaned battery terminals and problem went away for several days.
Re-occured, so I bought new battery. Problem could be worked around
by thumping the terminals <not too hard>. Didn't have a chance to put
new battery in <too busy>, and then the problem went away completly,
so last week I took the battery back <needed the money>.
Yesterday problem returned. Car didn't crank; rapped smartly on top
of the battery leads with fist, car started normally. Today car
wouldn't turn over for wife, her messing with terminals didn't fix.
When I got home I rapped on the terminals again and the car cranked
weakly, then started. Next time I shut it off it wouldn't crank at
all. Cleaned terminals again, no crank. Replaced battery, still no
crank. All electrics working, radio, headlights, etc. Headlights do
not dim when attempting to crank.
Both batteries show 12+ volts.
When attempting to start I can hear the solenoid clicking, but the
starter motor doesn't engage. Rapping on both with pliers improved
reaction to crank attempt marginally <*click* to *click-errrrrrrr*- no
crank though.
I'm going to pull the starter to have it tested as soon as the
hurricane lets me, but as this is my first Ford, I wanted to poll the
experts to see if there is something else that might be going on?
Ignition modules? Starter relays? What is confusing me is that if
it's the starter, why did messing with the battery make any
difference, unless it's the leads themselves? Seems to me the
negative clamp is a little sloppy, and even when cranked tight doesn't
seem to grab much of the post, but even so, it's nice and tight- I've
seen much worse work fine.
Sorry for the long post, any help appreciated.
Dragon
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Re: '92 Taurus Wagon Not Turning Over
Your cables might be corroded, might check the voltage on the posts during
attempted cranking, if it barely changes then you should move towards the
starter following the cables to their terminus.
<com> wrote in message
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com wrote:
stay with the battery, thats the problem, forget about the starter for
now: go to auto zone and buy a $1.98 battery terminal brush.. then take
off the battery terminals and use the battery terminal brush to clean up
the inside of the terminal and the top of the post of the battery where
the termnials are attached.. Hitting on them with Pliers is not gonna
correct the problem(even if it gets it to start). put the terminals
back on and the problem is gone... pretty good fix for $2.00. or you
might just need two new battery terminals(cost about $1.98 each)....
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Voltage drops about 3/10's, not nearly what it should, IMO. I've
checked the other ends of the cables and all of those connectors are
tight and undamaged. I did notice that the starter, which sits on the
front of the engine, has a lot of dirt build up, leading me to wonder
if it's also getting a lot of water in it <lotsa rain here in PA over
the last few months>.
Thanks for your help.
On Thu, 18 Sep 2003 05:06:11 GMT, "The Bathtub Admiral"
<ca> wrote:
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Battery post brush was the first thing I bought, brought terminals and
posts to a shine each time I cleaned them. Clamps currently installed
with felt washers underneath them, and anti-corrosive applied to
exterior of clamps and posts <not at mating surfaces>. I was looking
for some dielectric grease to put on the posts but Wal-mart didn't
sell any. Do you think that might help?
Thanks for your help.
On Thu, 18 Sep 2003 10:00:46 GMT, jim <com> wrote:
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The problem could be the solenoid contacts are not making a good contact or
a bad connection or cable. To check the connections I always disable the
ignition so the car will not start. Have someone start the car and check for
voltage drop at differnt places until you find the problem. A voltmeter or a
multimeter set to voltage setting will tell you the difference in voltage
between two points. You have to have the ciruit under load (have someone hit
the starter). These are good articles that explain how to check for voltage
drops:
http://www.labscopes.com/pg08.htm
http://www.fluke.com/application_notes/automotive/circuit.asp?AGID=1&SID=103
<com> wrote in message
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Sounds like the solenoid to me. It's a fifteen dollar part. If it isn't
the source of the current problem, at eleven years it was getting ready
to be the source of some problem.
com wrote:
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Thanks to all who responded- I removed the starter this morning and
took it apart looking for obvious defects. I didn't need to look much
further than the hunks of copper that fell out of it when I seperated
the casing halves- 2 rotor brushes were wiped completly out, and one
rotor bar was melted and torn out of it's mounting.
New starter in and it works fine now.
Dragon
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