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Nissan Maxima: 91 Maxima Transmission just stopped

  1. #1
    Maxim
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    91 Maxima Transmission just stopped

    Hi everyone

    1991 Maxima 3 liter Auto, 110 000 km on clock (70 000 miles). Up to this
    problem, all has been fine ... a great car! Absolutely no symptoms prior (as
    far as I could tell).

    Symptoms:
    Drove 20 min no problem open highway
    Slowed for 3 min low-speed zone
    Went to accelerate back to open-road speed and found I had no drive. No
    unusual noises.
    Upon stopping, I tried all gears including Reverse; absolutely no drive.
    Engine going well.
    Stopped/started engine; tried overdrive On/Off, tried the Selector Switch on
    Auto, Economy and Power; no go.
    Checked transmission oil; appeared OK.
    Waited 10 min and managed to go about 50 feet ... happened a number of
    times.
    Go tow in to mechanic's workshop.
    Checked next day when fluid cold, still no go. In fact, doesn't move an inch
    now.
    Mechanic is talking thousands to replace gearbox with reconditioned;
    otherwise he'll just replace torque convertor for about half this figure. He
    has yet to even look under car ... just his gut feeling I think. He says
    he's experienced with other auto transmissions, but hasn't worked on
    Maximas, but says no problem ... he'll just order what's needed (eg:
    replacement transmission or torque convertor) and fix.

    So I'm not very happy : (
    In fact, having a little trouble believing he's not jumping to conclusions
    so I've spent last 2 hours on Web. Now I think I need to ask him (before
    ripping the thing apart!) to:
    Check fluid filter for blockage (is this external?)
    Check transmission cable for breakage
    Re-check fluid level
    What about an electrical/electronic failure stopping my request getting thru
    to the transmission?
    Are there any external solenoids which can be checked?

    Do these sound reasonable? I'd really like some comments/ideas as to what
    could be wrong and what checks or tests should be carried out. I think there
    are some diagnostics which can be carried out using the Selector Switch, but
    haven't found anything about them.

    What do you think? Thanks for any and every comment. I'm a real novice but
    would love to know more!

    Graeme







  2. #2
    Maxim
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    Re: 91 Maxima Transmission just stopped

    A little more ....
    Wasn't "tow" to mechanic's workshop as stated ... I actually got hoisted
    onto a truck. Sorry for slipup ... didn't want you to think I might have
    made it worse by towing!

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  3. #3
    Al
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    Re: 91 Maxima Transmission just stopped

    On Thu, 17 Jun 2004 20:08:43 +1200, "Maxim" <co.nz>
    wrote:
     

    The Haynes manual for my 93 Maxima says there are 5 possible reasons
    for failure:

    1) Poor engine performance
    2) Improper adjustments
    3) hydraulic malfunctions
    4) Mechanical malfunctions
    5) Malfunctions in the computer or its network

    Prsumably you can rule out # 1
    #2 only relates to shifter cable (worn bushes or broken cable). If
    cable was broken you would be able to feel it, if bushes were worn you
    would still get some gear to work

    According to the manual the 93 Maxima's auto transmission is
    controlled by a computer, I assume the 91 is the same. That being the
    case, you or some shop, should be able to read trouble codes from
    this computer using specialied diagnostic equipment.

    Other posters may have more specific info.

    Your current technician appears limited. My suggestion, have the car
    shipped to a Nissan dealer for diagnosis.

    Al Moodie.

  4. #4
    Steve
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    Re: 91 Maxima Transmission just stopped

    Maxim wrote:

     

    Sounds reasonable or get a used one. Sounds like the forward clutch or the
    pump has given it up.

     

    Not likely the problem.
     

    No one is when their car is broken.

     

    Why? He probably checked the fluid, saw if was full and the shift linkage is
    moving but nothing happens.

     

    And he's spend years working on this kind of thing 40 hours a week.

     
     

    That's not the problem. Even -if- it was, the internals of the transmission
    are coming apart to stop the filter up so it still needs the transmission
    replaced. This filter blockage could happen on very old american cars with
    paper filters, these cars don't use that type of filter, they use a screen.

     

    It quit while you were driving so this can't be it. I've never seen a
    japanese shift cable break.
     

    Why? It's been checked several times already.

     

    It would go into "fail safe" which is second gear only mode.

     

    You're dreaming.. :-)
     

    No.

     

    Which is why you shouldn't question someone who isn't a novice. If you don't
    trust him, take it somewhere else. Think about how you'd feel if: you -are-
    a professional at your job and someone who is totally clueless about what
    you do for a living starts telling you how to do your job? You're going to
    tell me you wouldn't feel a little insulted?

    This guy knows everything you've found on the web and to start questioning
    his ability to diagnose your car is insulting at best. Maybe he wouldn't
    care but I'm sure he'd at least think you're being a jerk to question him
    about basic stuff like this. Again if you don't think he has enough sense
    to know what a novice found on the internet in a couple of hours, take it
    somewhere else for a second opinion.

    --

    Steve

    http://www.atlantaracing.com

  5. #5
    Chris
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    Re: 91 Maxima Transmission just stopped

    I'm agreeing with Steve at Hotlanta Racing. I think you're tranny's shot.
    Sounds like what happened to my 90. At this point, it's time for a
    replacement or have this one rebuilt. I had mine rebuilt here in Plano, TX
    to the tune of $1500. He replaced basically everything internal and now it
    runs like new.

    Chris
    90 & 94 GXE's



  6. #6
    Maxim
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    Re: 91 Maxima Transmission just stopped

    Thanks Al. I have in fact now shipped my car to a proper Nissan workshop and
    they'll do a proper diagnosis on Monday. I feel more comfortable with a
    logical problem-solving approach than the rip-the-thing-apart-and-see plan
    of the other mechanic (and of Steve T it seems). Graeme

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  7. #7
    Steve
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    Re: 91 Maxima Transmission just stopped

    Maxim wrote:
     

    Some people like to make things more complex than they really are while
    others actually understand what is going on. Everything you (as a total
    novice to this) hoped was wrong (because they are cheap fixes) can't be the
    problem from what you wrote so why would someone, who knows what they are
    doing, check things that can't cause this problem? Why is it "logical
    problem solving" to check things that -can't- be what wrong with your car?

    Sure for people like you (who read up on the internet and think they know
    more that a professional does) I regularly have to waste their money
    because they demand we do this and that when I know it's not the problem. I
    can't get them to understand setting the timing and changing the fuel
    filter isn't why their car won't start in cold weather etc. Just because
    you read some generic things on the "misinformation super hyway" doesn't
    make them facts for your application.

    Good luck and thanks for your lame attempt at insulting me. :-)

    --

    Steve

    http://www.atlantaracing.com

  8. #8
    PolskaHick
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    Re: 91 Maxima Transmission just stopped

    I might be a little late, BUT, I have one suggestion for you... Somewhere
    on the web, whether it be from a search engine or maxima.org, there are
    instuctions for a sequence of actions to perform to get your maxima into
    transmission diagnostics mode. It tells you any error codes the
    transmissions computer has stored by blinking the Power/Comfort selector
    switch lights a certain pattern. I was having shifting problems, and by
    doing this, the tranny computer said it was the solenoid pressure sensors
    (I brought it to AAMCO to be fixed, and after arguing with them for 3
    days, they finnaly agreed there was a problem, which I paid 550 to get
    fixed, and it NOTHING to help the problem, lol)
    I can't tell you where these mystical instructions are, but from what i
    remember its an extremely long sequence of button pushing and key turning.
    Best of luck, I think you'd agree with me that 5 speed manual would have
    been better...


  9. #9
    PolskaHick
    Guest

    Re: 91 Maxima Transmission just stopped

    I might be a little late, BUT, I have one suggestion for you... Somewhere
    on the web, whether it be from a search engine or maxima.org, there are
    instuctions for a sequence of actions to perform to get your maxima into
    transmission diagnostics mode. It tells you any error codes the
    transmissions computer has stored by blinking the Power/Comfort selector
    switch lights a certain pattern. I was having shifting problems, and by
    doing this, the tranny computer said it was the solenoid pressure sensors
    (I brought it to AAMCO to be fixed, and after arguing with them for 3
    days, they finnaly agreed there was a problem, which I paid 550 to get
    fixed, and it NOTHING to help the problem, lol)
    I can't tell you where these mystical instructions are, but from what i
    remember its an extremely long sequence of button pushing and key turning.
    Best of luck, I think you'd agree with me that 5 speed manual would have
    been better...


  10. #10
    Steve
    Guest

    Re: 91 Maxima Transmission just stopped

    PolskaHick wrote:
     

    The deal is his has just stopped working altogether. On all the nissan
    automatics I've worked with, they do -something- even if the computer isn't
    plugged in which is why thinking it's something electrical isn't likely the
    cause. Shifting problems? Sure it could be something electronic but to just
    suddenly stop pulling is a mechanical problem.

    --

    Steve

    http://www.atlantaracing.com


 

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