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    HAKSAW_CA
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    89 YJ carb? problem

    Hello all, I just bought a 89 YJ a couple of weeks ago, it's been running
    great. Today when I was leaving from work it stalled on me when I got to
    the first stop sign..no big deal I figure I didn't warm it up
    enough...tonight my wife took it out and she said it stalled a dozen time on
    her.

    When I checked it tonight it start's fine but woudnlt hold an idle, it would
    just sputter and stall. Giving it gas (throttle) and she rev's great, let
    off on the gas and it dies. I sprayed some carb cleaner all around (just in
    case) and find if I hold the choke plate (think that's what it's called)
    partialy closed at idle it holds OK.

    There seems to be lots of fuel pressure (possible too much?), I noticed it
    leaking from the transition between hard line and flex on the return line to
    the tank, I pushed the lines together better and no more leak. At the fuel
    filter it alos apears to be lots of pressure, when running I can see the
    line to the carb move (it just has the press type of clamps and it actually
    moved along the shaft coming from the fuel filter). There's good vacume
    too.

    I was able to crank up the idle screw enought that it actually does now seem
    to hold idle OK but not great, but I know that's not then answer since it
    was fine the last couple of weeks.

    Any ideas or help is greatly apriciated, and the carb does look clean
    possible even fairly new but no guarintee there.

    thanks,
    Brent



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    HAKSAW_CA
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    Re: 89 YJ carb? problem

    Hey Mick

    I've had it for a couple of weeks and gone through a couple of tanks since
    then, it did cool off a fair bit today, probably 1/3 of a tank right now,
    maybe I'll fill it up tomorrow and see...

    Brent


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    Mick
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    Re: 89 YJ carb? problem

    If it was sitting before you bought it, you may have water in the gas due to
    condensation. Try a couple cans of dry gas before spending too much time
    and effort on other things. Mick
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    Dave
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    Re: 89 YJ carb? problem

    Sounds more like a problem with the choke. It either needs adjustment or
    replacement.

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    HAKSAW_CA
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    Re: 89 YJ carb? problem

    I'm not sure about that, the jeep runs pretty good when first started from
    cold, the problem is once it is warmed up, and at that time the choke is
    fully open.

    Today filled up the tank (even added a fuel additive to help clean the fuel
    system), ran it on the hwy for about 30 minutes + around town driveing for
    another 30min. had to two foot it a every stop so it would not stall.

    once home I adjusted the idle setting to step it up a bit more to help, and
    playe with the fuel mixture screws. Ended up setting them both at 5 full
    turns from fully in.

    It now idles great in park, once in gear it drops a few hunderd RPM to
    around 750, runs OK but still can feel it wants to stall when I come to a
    stop. runs good as long as it's moving, its just the stopping that's a
    problem.

    I see a lot of sensors and even connections to the carb (I assume form the
    computer), tried disconnecting them when I did nothing changed (at idle, I
    didnt' try driving that way)

    I'm getting good spark form all cylinders, i'm not sure what timing should
    be but when hooked up to a timing light the timing mark was visible on the
    marker plate (plate was very dirty so I don't now what the timing actually
    was), does the computer decide on timing or can I manually adjust that?

    thanks


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  6. #6
    Dave
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    Re: 89 YJ carb? problem

    According to the repair manual it could be several things.
    1. Idle speed incorrect.
    2. Fuel filter clogged or water in fuel.
    3. Choke not operating properly.
    4. Damaged or wet distributor cap and wires.
    5. Emissions system components faulty.
    6. Faulty or incorrectly gapped spark plugs.
    7. Vacuum leak at carburetor, intake manifold or vacuum hoses.

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  7. #7
    HAKSAW
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    Re: 89 YJ carb? problem

    Thanks Dave,

    1. I know it's not the idle speed setting (been playing with that one,
    currently it's cranked up too high just to help it now stall)
    2. I have yet to change the fule filter, but pretty sure there is plenty of
    fuel getting though, at WOT and cruising there are no delay's or power loss
    3. once warmed up the choke should be fully open witch it is so I dont think
    its choke
    4. though possible, I do seem to be getting good spark from each wire (with
    a timing light check), I do have yet to pull all the plugs to check them
    5. possible, but not sure how to test them, disconnecting etc. didnt make a
    difference
    6. still to check
    7. this was my first assumptioin but spraying carb cleaner around hasn't
    shown any vacume leaks yet, maybe i'm missing one somewhere though, I havn't
    tryed around the intake manifold yet, next step will also probably to pull
    all vacume hoses off the carb and cap them (one a a time, so test)...

    Thanks for the tips, I do still question if the computer is causing it
    because of a bad signal from one of the sensors, but I'm not reall sure what
    role the computer plays? I do see wires going into the carb, so it must be
    doing something to it, and of course the ignigion, i'm more concerned about
    what the coputer may be telling the carb though, if it somehow plays with
    the mixture, then maybe a bad signal from water temp or O2 sensor is telling
    it to lean out too much or richen too much? (hopfully when I get the plugs
    pulled I can tell by them)




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    Steve
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    Re: 89 YJ carb? problem

    Post this over on rec.auto.makers.jeep+willies

    The Carter BBD carb is problematic. Sounds to me like the idle tubes are
    clogged.

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