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Nissan Maxima: 89 se, where to buy both throttle body gaskets?

  1. #1
    2cents
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    89 se, where to buy both throttle body gaskets?

    My local Nissan dealer says I have to buy the entire engine gasket kit to
    obtain the throttle body gaskets.

    My google searching has not shown a source.

    Does anyone know a site or phone number for a company that has the front &
    rear gaskets? I could probably use the old but would rather not take the
    chance on an air leak.

    Also is there a 'kit' available that would include the injector o-rings &
    intake gaskets?


  2. #2
    Steve
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    Re: 89 se, where to buy both throttle body gaskets?

    2cents wrote:
     

    If the gaskets are really this hard to find and the old ones didn't
    "shread", put a light coat of RTV on each side of the gasket (ultra grey
    would work fine) and put it back together. Same with intake gaskets, these
    don't have a bunch of pressure on them and I've never had problems doing
    this when the gaskets were hard to get.

    --

    Steve

    http://www.atlantaracing.com

  3. #3
    2cents
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    Re: 89 se, where to buy both throttle body gaskets?

    Thanks Steve,

    I had tried to reach your company late Friday to ask questions, but I had
    called after closing time.

    So if you are reading this... & wish to reply... here are a few
    questions.

    Are the Sorensen injectors good ones? New ones from Autozone appear to be
    low in price (competitive with rebuilt).

    Would you recommend replacing all the injectors on a high mileage car
    (230,000)? I have the top intake chambers off & am replacing all the vac
    hoses, egr, and pcv valves in an attempt to fix what seems to be a vac
    leak affecting idle & below 2500 rpm performance. All the injectors
    'click' uniformly but would hate to go through this work & have an
    injector fail in the next few months.

    Are new injectors prone to fail as quick as my old injectors might fail?


    Is there equivalent generic O-rings for the injectors?

    Do you have a favorite site to order parts from?

    An injector rebuilding company said that there is no difference between
    'blue' & 'black' injectors & a mixture of injectors would work OK on my
    engine. Doesn't seem right does it? If true why worry about color type?

    I know that's quite a few questions to ask but when you want to do the
    'right' repair & save money at the same time
    it gets to be frustrating trying to find good sources & correct
    information.

    Thanks. Jerry


  4. #4
    john
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    Re: 89 se, where to buy both throttle body gaskets?

    Check with NAPA for the head set that includes all those gaskets and
    o-rings you mention

    2cents wrote:
     


  5. #5
    Bill
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    Re: 89 se, where to buy both throttle body gaskets?

    "2cents" <ispwest.com> wrote in message
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    Wow. I bought both for my '91 from a dealer locally, and it wasn't any
    problem at all. They did have to order them, but I was able to get them
    individually. I bet your dealer CAN do that as well, but is choosing not
    to. They'll make more money on the kit (obviously).


    Bill G
    '91 SE Auto
    168,256 miles

     



  6. #6
    Bill
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    Re: 89 se, where to buy both throttle body gaskets?

    "2cents" <ispwest.com> wrote in message
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    If you're already going to be in there, and the extra cost isn't a problem,
    then go ahead and do it. This engine will get you over 300K without too
    much difficulty.

     

    Well, "quick" is a relative term here. 230,000 miles is not "quick" at all.
    In fact, it's quite good for injectors. If you're expecting another 230,000
    out of the new ones, you may be disappointed. But they should last as long
    as the originals.

     

    Why not use the ones that come with the new injectors?

     

    I bought my injectors from the dealer. I figured it was too important a
    part to get a rebuilt, and the prices were close enough that I went with
    OEM.
     

    Everything I've read is that you should NOT mix the colors. There are
    subtle enough differences that the ECU will have trouble tweaking the flow.
    The mixture will never be quite right and the O2 sensors will keep feeding
    this info back to the ECU, which will keep trying to change the flow, and
    may never succeed. If you're replacing all 6, then make sure the colors
    match.


    Bill G
    '91 SE Auto
    168,256 miles



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    Steve
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    Re: 89 se, where to buy both throttle body gaskets?

    2cents wrote:
     

    No.
     

    We call them "squirt guns" because of their spray pattern. Instead of a nice
    mist, the shoot gas like a squirt gun. I've never seen a car idle right
    that has them.
     

    Why? Are any of them bad? I'd rather get someone like http://www.ptrsds.com/
    to clean and test them than buy junk new or rebuilt ones.
     

    It could be the intake gasket causing this too.

    All the injectors 

    I'd rather have 230K nissan ones than new autozone ones.

     

    They won't work right new.
     

    Try courtesy nissan online, real nissan parts.

     

    It's not right. If you mix injectors with different flow rates, you get
    unequal mixture distribution problems that can only be solved with another
    set of injectors.



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    Steve

    http://www.atlantaracing.com

  8. #8
    2cents
    Guest

    Re: 89 se, where to buy both throttle body gaskets?

    Is there a 'proper' way to separate the electrical connectors? I've always
    'picked' at the wire clip until they separate. Don't want to mess up the
    injector connectors if I can help it.




  9. #9
    Steve
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    Re: 89 se, where to buy both throttle body gaskets?

    2cents wrote:
     

    That's all you can do. PITA the way those are made. BTW the injector
    conectors on my own Z had no wire clips on them for over 5 years and they
    never gave any problems. I'm not sure why they make them so "bullet proof"
    to get off.
    --

    Steve

    http://www.atlantaracing.com

  10. #10
    2cents
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    Re: 89 se, where to buy both throttle body gaskets?

    Thanks Steve,

    I just finished removing the injector connectors & the
    fuel injection assembly. As things seem to go, the 1st clip flipped out &
    of course fell into the deep dark space below the water pump. Guess it
    won't be seen again in my lifetime.

    A few more questions...

    The connectors have some green powder from oxidation.. what
    do you use to clean the connectors?

    Do you attempt to 'tighten' the slip-on pins to make a better connection
    or leave them as is?

    Do you coat the contacts with anything to help prevent vibration &/or
    corrosion?

    The bottom of each injector is pristine, but the sides are coated in
    engine gunk. Is this normal and/or should I pull the intake manifold & do
    a thorough cleaning? It seems with each layer that is removed to take
    care of a problem another set of potential problems appear. I don't want
    to get down to where it is better to pull the engine because it has been
    running pretty good.

    Do you know what voltage the injectors operate at? Do you think I would
    be too 'whacky/squirrelly/etc.' to build an outside jerry rigged setup to
    pulse each injector while it is under pressure? Seems like it would be
    safe as long as the make/break was several feet from the injectors. I was
    thinking of getting several feet of fuel line hose & making a cable to
    extend one of the injector connectors to cycle each injector to observe
    its spray pattern.



 

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