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Nissan Maxima: 87 Maxima 3.0 engine problem

  1. #1
    SkiNautique
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    87 Maxima 3.0 engine problem

    Hi to all! with engine cold it will start and run fine.when it warms up
    really good it loses #1 and #2 cylinder. I can squeeze the fuel pump
    return line almost shut and it runs smooth. Very strange problem!!I have
    changed the fuel pump,mass air flow,distributor,ignition coil,injectors
    and the computer.All of these parts were taken from another 87 maxima that
    I had but it was wrecked. Only thing I have not changed is the fuel
    pressure regulator. Any info will greatly be appreciated!!


  2. #2
    Steve
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    Re: 87 Maxima 3.0 engine problem

    SkiNautique wrote:
     

    Have you checked for vac leaks?
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    Steve

    http://www.atlantaracing.com

  3. #3
    SkiNautique
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    Re: 87 Maxima 3.0 engine problem

    I have gone over every vac line and both intake gaskets and I am unable to
    locate a vaccuum leak. I have spent so much time on this problem I am
    going crazy.


  4. #4
    Steve
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    Re: 87 Maxima 3.0 engine problem

    SkiNautique wrote:
     

    It just about has to be either a vac leak affecting those 2 cylinders or
    something wrong with those 2 injectors. I assume you've ruled out the
    simple stuff like plug wires and are using the correct NGK plugs?
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    Steve

    http://www.atlantaracing.com

  5. #5
    SkiNautique
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    Re: 87 Maxima 3.0 engine problem

    Thanks for your help I really appreciate it!! Yeah the cap, rotor, wires,
    and plugs are all new. I still do not understand why when I squeeze the
    fuel return line almost shut engine smooths out and runs like it is
    supposed to. I have never seen this happen before on any car I have worked
    on. The injectors that are on the engine now came off of the running
    engine in the wrecked car. That motor ran good before the accident. I am
    about ready to pull this engine out and install engine out of the wrecked
    car..LOL


  6. #6
    Steve
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    Re: 87 Maxima 3.0 engine problem

    SkiNautique wrote:
     

    Those 2 cyl are lean for some reason. Have you checked the fuel pressure?
     

    Did you replace all the injectors or just those 2? Is the EGR valve stuck
    open slightly? That is a vac leak and can cause weird problems. Try
    removing the vac line to it and see what happens.

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    Steve

    http://www.atlantaracing.com

  7. #7
    maxiguy
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    Re: 87 Maxima 3.0 engine problem

    I'm going to buy a 87 Maxima GXE tomorrow (with only 79k miles... lovely).
    In doing some online research, I came to find that there is a problem with
    the 87's fuel injector. There's was even a standing recall order for them
    from Nissan. I read this off the CarSurvey.org site, from the owner of a
    87 Maxima:

    "I initially bought the car through the internet on a yahoo auction, I
    paid $4200. A bit high. But I am a Nissan believer. I flew down and picked
    it up in Florida, car was spotless and had been freshly buffed and
    detailed.

    On the ride from the airport it ran on three cylinders instead of six,
    appeared to be the spark plugs not firing correctly. Seller repaired. This
    showed up once again in Louisiana, until then the car ran smoothly. From
    Louisiana the car fired on three then six cylinders, intermittently, I
    believe this bumping and forceful jerking back and forth took out two of
    the motor mounts. I took it to my mechanic who diagnosed that the fuel
    injector harness was not making correct contact consistently which forced
    it to fire incorrectly. THIS had been a recall item when the 87 Maxima
    first came out. This work had been done by a Florida dealer, but factory
    installation specs direction was that it was to be soldered and not
    clamped. The dealer had used the clamped method. The repair shop did a
    timing chain and soldered the fuel harness."

    Hope that proves helpful to you.


  8. #8
    Steve
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    Re: 87 Maxima 3.0 engine problem

    maxiguy wrote:
     

    This is incorrect information. The factory recall came with crimp connectors
    with heat shrink tubing over them pre installed on the ends of the
    replacement harnesses. Someone may have installed them poorly but this is
    how they are supposed to be installed. BTW soldering isn't a good idea in
    high vibration environments like an engine harness. Every factory harness
    has crimp connections and they don't give any problems, soldered
    connections will result in the wire breaking next to the solder joint.

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    Steve

    http://www.atlantaracing.com

  9. #9
    SkiNautique
    Guest

    Re: 87 Maxima 3.0 engine problem

    Hi Steve!! Again thank you for your help. I believe the injectors are my
    problem. I did not work on it this weekend but did start it today. This
    time it did not get all the way warmed up before it started running rough.
    The injector rail on the car is off of the running engine that came out of
    the wrecked car. The way it was running today acts just like it is losing
    those 2 injectors..I wonder if they have gotten some trash on them since
    they are the first (#1 &#2)injector on each rail. I flushed the fuel lines
    and installed new fuel filter when I got this replacement car for the
    wrecked one. Guess I will pull the injector rail off tomorrow and see if
    there is any trash in the line...Guess I could try the other injector rail
    too..lol..Heck thats all I can do is laugh I guess...cause I do not have a
    magic wand..LOL
    As far as the wiring harness on the injectors...this engine in this car
    just had the heads and injectors done before I bought it..not sure how
    many miles ago but heads and injector wirng harness as been changed. All
    the injectors have plastic connectors with all clips too so I do not think
    my problem is there...


  10. #10
    SkiNautique
    Guest

    Re: 87 Maxima 3.0 engine problem

    Hi Steve!! Again thank you for your help. I believe the injectors are my
    problem. I did not work on it this weekend but did start it today. This
    time it did not get all the way warmed up before it started running rough.
    The injector rail on the car is off of the running engine that came out of
    the wrecked car. The way it was running today acts just like it is losing
    those 2 injectors..I wonder if they have gotten some trash on them since
    they are the first (#1 &#2)injector on each rail. I flushed the fuel lines
    and installed new fuel filter when I got this replacement car for the
    wrecked one. Guess I will pull the injector rail off tomorrow and see if
    there is any trash in the line...Guess I could try the other injector rail
    too..lol..Heck thats all I can do is laugh I guess...cause I do not have a
    magic wand..LOL
    As far as the wiring harness on the injectors...this engine in this car
    just had the heads and injectors done before I bought it..not sure how
    many miles ago but heads and injector wirng harness as been changed. All
    the injectors have plastic connectors with all clips too so I do not think
    my problem is there...



 

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