Mercedes-Benz: 560 SEL suspension conversion
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560 SEL suspension conversion
Do you know if its possible to convert the 1990 560 SEL rear suspension to a standard suspension with shocks instead of the existing automatic leveling system?
Henk
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Re: 560 SEL suspension conversion
Why would you want to defeat it?
On Sat, 18 Oct 2003 05:27:30 GMT, "Henk" <com> wrote:
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Re: 560 SEL suspension conversion
Mostly because of the cost of the replacement shocks. They are far more
expensive than they need to be I figure. Of course I'm open to reasonably
priced shocks if available somewhere. I'm in Toronto so if you can advise
me where I can find reasonably priced shocks I'd appreciate it. My car
sounds like its going down a washboard road most of the time and its very
irritating.
Thanks,
Henry
"JPF" <net> wrote in message
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to a standard suspension with shocks instead of the existing automatic
leveling system?
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Re: 560 SEL suspension conversion
What's wrong with the shocks? They're pretty sturdy, and don't
usually leak much. If the damping sucks and the ride is bad, the air
cells get replaced, not the shocks. I see many people foolishly
replace shocks on Jags, Rolls, BMW and MB's when all they need is a
very inexpensive nitrogen ball.
On Sat, 18 Oct 2003 14:26:01 GMT, "Henk" <com> wrote:
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Re: 560 SEL suspension conversion
If the damping sucks and the ride is bad, the air
cells get replaced, not the shocks
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Good advice...the shocks on the air models are probably not the problem
here.
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I think you are referring to the hydropneumatic suspension made by french
manufacturer Citroen. This suspension system was available with some upper
class Mercedes cars, and it does not have separate shocks. All you exchange
are the suspension bowls. One bowl is about 70$, exchange of all bowls is
about one hour labor. These are the figures quoted by Citroen (don't know
how much Mercedes charges you).
I currently own such a Citroen, and while you can argue about the overall
quality of this brand, the suspension system is really outstanding.
Frank
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Re: 560 SEL suspension conversion
Yes, it's possible to replace the 560 SEL suspension with one from the 420 (
air to liquid, essentially). Many shops do this due the the expense of
replacing the 560's suspension when it goes.
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Suggest YOU learn about this rear suspension and crawl under the car to
see it first hand. It's not all that complicated and if YOU understand
how it works its repair costs are not bad. BUT if YOU allow some shop to
sell you a "replace everything" repair it will be painfully expensive.
Engine driven hydraulic pump provides the push. Special, expensive,
hydraulic fluid transmits power to the rear axle. Leveling valve adjusts
the car's rear height. Nitrogen spheres (break and need replacement) are
the "helper springs". In principle those are its components, a similar
suspension is also used by the TD/TE station wagons.
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Many "shops" have no clue WTF is going on.
It isn't rocket science, it's simple hydraulics. It's a very reliable
system. Even here in WNY, where everything rots, they rarely fail.
The largest problem with this system is ignorance. The shocks
themselves do very little. They pretty much hold fluid. If they're
attached to the car, and the fluid isn't pouring out, they're usually
fine. Sure, they leak now and then, but replacement in pairs is not
required if they do.
While indeed it may be possible, it is rarely cost effective or
necessary to butcher it with a "conversion.".
This problem doesn't only plague MB. Jags, Bentley, Rolls, BMW's all
get fucked up by some ignorant butcher in an attempt to "repair" or
"convert" it.
On 19 Oct 2003 00:48:17 GMT, com (JAZZIMA) wrote:
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