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Audi: Is 4Matic a rebadged quattro?

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    John
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    Re: Is 4Matic a rebadged quattro?


    "Peter Bell" <org.uk> wrote in message
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    Is that similar to the system in the Subarus with automatic transmissions?
    I never understood the claim that it has a 50/50 split front/rear.
    Does VW/Audi make a similar claim for it's Haldex system?



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    Hairy
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    Re: Is 4Matic a rebadged quattro?

    "John Opezdol" <au> wrote in message
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    More information is available from Haldex themselves, but - IIRC - the
    "nominal" split is 95/5. This will then vary dynamically up to (again, IIRC)
    60/40.

    Whether or not this is "proper" Quattro is something that, I'm sure, will
    continue to be debated. It *does* work very well, though, enabling you to
    drift the car (with ESP turned off) and - in one memorable case - take the
    car sideways when accelerating hard on what turned out to be a slippery
    surface..[1]

    On the Mk.I TT, you could feel the torque transfer..

    --

    Hairy One Kenobi

    Disclaimer: the opinions expressed in this opinion do not necessarily
    reflect the opinions of the highly-opinionated person expressing the opinion
    in the first place. So there!

    [1] I'm not usually a complete hooligan, but after waiting 7 minutes to get
    out onto the [UK] A4 at the start of a 12 minute journey..



  3. #13
    John
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    Re: Is 4Matic a rebadged quattro?

    "Hairy One Kenobi" <abuse@[127.0.0.1]> wrote in message
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    IIRC) 

    I can take a FWD car sideways on a slippery surface :-)
    Does the system rob the front wheels off power quick enough?
     
    What is Mk.I TT (TT as in the Audi version of VW bug?)
    What did you feel during the drift?



  4. #14
    Hairy
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    Re: Is 4Matic a rebadged quattro?

    "John Opezdol" <au> wrote in message
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    will 
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    Different feeling, I suspect - a FWD "hunt" is more of a "where's the road"
    sort of thing (in my experience), where this was a full RWD-style "try to
    stop the rear overtaking the front" scenario.
     

    Mk.I was before the suspension mods, ESP, and spoiler. Having ordered on the
    basis of the driving "feel", I was very disappointed that Audi agreed with
    people that turn hard right at 100mph+ in the wet. I'm with Darwin on that
    one ;o)

    Drift is easy (I would guess in both cars, but didn't try it in the garage's
    model!). Predictable and smooth, although I've found tyre choice to be very
    important (put it this way, I'm not looking to buy ContiSports again.. just
    started on my second set of S03s..)

    The TTR drifts like a Westfield (in terms of balance) but you have to be a
    bit braver when committing to a corner. [Obvious disclaimer: I'm not acting
    like a complete nutter on public roads, but one needs to know the car's
    weight-transfer, steering, braking, and "oops" responses under different
    conditions before getting ambitious. I'm a self-confessed slow learner on
    that one - I like to know the car first]

    Not sure that the "bug" comment is /that/ valid, though - not having driven
    one, I'd be unsure of the suspension (etc) differences; they're quite
    noticeable between different TT marks, so I'd be surprised if they were less
    so through different body styles. And then there's the floorpan difference..
    (IIRC, the TT is shorter but still unbelievably wide.. and more than double
    the weight of a Westie!)

    H1K



  5. #15
    Mike
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    Re: Is 4Matic a rebadged quattro?

    Peter Bell wrote:
     

    Feh. That shit ain't Quattro, no matter what the badge says.

    --
    Mike Smith


  6. #16
    Mike
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    Re: Is 4Matic a rebadged quattro?

     
    demand" 

    Go on then. I will admit to embarrassing memories of being unable to get a
    110 Landy (with its diff locked!) up a slippery, grassy hill that a syncro
    golf on road tyres just wafted up, so it can't be that bad!

    Not proper Quattro of course - - - - - -

    Mike.




  7. #17
    John
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    Re: Is 4Matic a rebadged quattro?


    "Mike Buckley" <com> wrote in message
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    I think a lot of people me included do not care a lot about off road
    performance.
    But what is Landy anyway?



  8. #18
    Doug
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    Re: Is 4Matic a rebadged quattro?


    "John Opezdol" <au> wrote in message
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    <SNIP> 

    syncro 

    I assume a Landrover 4x4?
    --
    Doug Ramage




 

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