Ford Mustang: 200X GT vs. Mach1: what's the difference?
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200X GT vs. Mach1: what's the difference?
I'm considering a 2001 or so GT, and I noticed the engine is the same
size as the Mach1 engine yet the Mach1 is rated 45HP higher. Why? Is
there any substantive difference, or is this a case of model cripple
that can be easily reversed? (eg, with a chip or something similar.)
Thanks for the help- I looked around, but there's a TON of information
out there about these cars and I can't find that particular question
answered anywhere...
Thanks-
Jim
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Re: 200X GT vs. Mach1: what's the difference?
The GT is an iron block SOHC and the Mach 1 is an aluminum block DOHC.
"Jim" <net> wrote in message news:net...
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Re: 200X GT vs. Mach1: what's the difference?
<< The GT is an iron block SOHC and the Mach 1 is an aluminum block DOHC >>
I would love to see the torque curve charts for both these engines. The
Mach engine makes more hp at higher rpm, but at the expense of how much low
end torque? My guess is that the Mach still has good low end torque due to
the DOHC configuration. But they did feel a need to put a 3.55 in the back
as opposed to a 3.27... the torque curve must be a bit higher up the rpm
band. All I know is that I have 1100cc motorcycle with a V4, DOHC (very
similar set-up to the Mach engine), and for the size, that thing is a ROCKET
with loads of torque across the entire rpm band. I guess it's all in the
combustion chamber design and ports... the 4 valves per cylinder, etc...
this is where the magic must lie.
One thing that upset me a bit this morning... I saw a road test for a 2003
Honda Accord sedan, 3.0 V6, 240 hp, auto... and it had the SAME 0-60 and 1/4
times as a 2002 Mustang GT V8 4.6 auto (according to these particular Car
and Driver road tests: 0-60 in about 6 and a half secs, and 1/4 mile in 15
secs). So this means that someone's grandma in a new Accord sedan can stay
nose to nose with a new GT!!! And for me and my heavier GT convertible,
granny will beat me!!! Oh man, I don't wanna be smoked by a granny!!! I'm
not sure of the V6 Honda engine configuration in terms of heads/valves, but
I do know that they have variable valve timing.... that's a pretty big deal
apparently, and also expensive and sophisticated. But gee, a V6 sedan
beating a V8 performance car... by today's standards, I guess the GT is not
really a true musclecar, but just an average pretty fast car.. and the Mach
1 IS the musclecar. Well... lesson learned... if you don't want to be
beaten by an old lady in a Japanese sedan, be sure to get at least a Mach 1.
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Re: 200X GT vs. Mach1: what's the difference?
That makes me kind of sick...
Nothing against japanese cars, there great. But why cant america build a car
that cheap that gets that much hp out of a 3.0? Id love to see it...
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Re: 200X GT vs. Mach1: what's the difference?
I love my Mustang for the looks and performance but American car makers are
behind when it comes to large output from small input. The new Acura TL will
have 270hp and will be available with a 6sp trans. I am assuming it will
still be 3.2 liters all for a retail price of about 32-35k. Not a bad choice
as you get reliability
and performance I will probably stick with my Mustang but I do think
American car makers need to get with it a little. Don't get me wrong, I like
all cars and I am not slamming any one maker just try to keep up with
competition.
David Short
2000 GT Vert
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Re: 200X GT vs. Mach1: what's the difference?
Jim <net> wrote in message news:<net>...
Jim --
The 200x cars are basically SOHC 4.6L engines. The Mach1 is a DOHC4.6
I don't remember but it's either turbo or supercharged. It also has a
less restrictive exhaust system.
Joe
'03 GT 'Vert 5speed
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Re: 200X GT vs. Mach1: what's the difference?
Jim wrote:
It can't be duplicated easily. The Mach 1 essentially has the 320 hp
DOHC naturally aspirated (2001 model year) Cobra engine--except that it
is assembly line made instead of hand built like the Cobras. 320hp,
with a redline like it has and gears like it has makes the Mach 1 a
serious competitor.
The GT has the 260 hp SOHC V8. (SOHC = 2 valves/cylinder, DOHC = 4
valves/cylinder)
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http://home.earthlink.net/~jthet
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Re: 200X GT vs. Mach1: what's the difference?
The engine is a DOHC 4.6 but it is NOT turbocharged or supercharged from
the factory.
Erik D.
'94 white lightning
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Re: 200X GT vs. Mach1: what's the difference?
I own a GT also and have worked for Honda. I think the american companies
need to step it up a little too. Hondas have the i-VTEC performance down.
The valves stay open longer at higher rpms and also have a taller node on
the cam that kicks in at higher rpms. awesome tech! Its like having 2 torque
curves in the same engine with excellent pick-up through the whole rpm
curve. Dont get me wrong though I love american muscle and there is no
replacement for displacement. But the rice burners have my respect.
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Re: 200X GT vs. Mach1: what's the difference?
Thanks for all the responses! I had no idea the M1 was DOHC, I just saw
the displacement number and thought there might be a chance. Oh well, I
guess it'll have to be an M1 or a Cobra. 
J-.
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