Dodge: 2005 Magnum RT AWD performance...

From what I've read, anyone who owns an 04 Grand Cherokee with the HO V8
(AWD) probably won't take a back seat to an RT AWD in a 0-60 run.


"Wicked96SS" <ORG> wrote in message
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On Wed, 20 Oct 2004, Jack Carter wrote:
 

Do you have any numbers to back that up? I did a little research, and the
Magnum as a higher rear end ratio, more power, more torque, and weighs
less... I woudl assume that even the AWD version would be considerably
faster than the Grand Cherokee...

Grand Cherokee:
HP: 265 @ 5100 RPMs
TQ: 325 @ 3600 RPMs
WEIGHT: 5150 lbs.

Dodge Magnum:
HP: 340 @ 5000 RPMs
TQ: 390 @ 4000 RPMs
WEIGHT: 4393 lbs.

Just curious!

Thanks!

I don't know where you got your GC weight figure but it sounds far too high!
I have an '04 GC with the HO V8 and have tested it several times with a
G-Tech Pro performance meter. It breaks seven seconds from 0-60
consistently. The GC seems to have a very high RPM stall torque converter
and, as a result, really flies off the line. I'm getting faster times from
my '04 that the 5.7 liter 98 that I used to have.



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On Wed, 20 Oct 2004, Jack Carter wrote:
 

It may sound high, but I saw that figure on several websites, and Edmunds
has the vehicle listed at 6100 pounds.

As for sub 7 second 0-60, that is impressive for an SUV! But I have also
read several
instances whre 0-60's in the Dodge Magnum RT were 6.1 seconds, with a 14.6
second quarter mile. As a drag racer, to put it in perspective, at those
times and speeds, .9 seconds difference (assuming that the Jeep could keep
up) is about 9 car lengths, substancially faster.

Again, I would really like to see some actual numbers, and not just
guessing on what the AWD RT would do... I have a feeling it would be
slightly faster than the Jeep.... although I don't have any facts to back
this up.

Thanks!

 

I used to do a LOT of drag racing myself at local strips. One of the road
tests I recently read for the RT quoted a 0-60 time of 7.1 seconds. (The
writer said it seemed "sluggish" coming off the line and that there were
times when it didn't feel like it had 340hp.) But I just got a Road & Track
that says 6.1. Don't know who to believe. I'm going to drive one this
afternoon so I'll have a better idea of how it might run after that.


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On Thu, 21 Oct 2004, Jack Carter wrote:
 

What source do you have for the 7.1 second 0-60? I would really like to
read about that. Every review I have read online have put the 0-60 from
6.0 to 6.3, but nothing slower. Granted I have only read a dozen or so
reviews.

I have gotten some good data about the torque curve of the engine as well
as the gear ratios in the transmission, and have run some numbers using
Desktop Dyno and Desktop Dragstrip and it gave similar results as to what
the reviews I have read said. Of course, I don't have all the variables,
and the software has a tendancy to be a bit "optimistic" if you don't know
how to set it up... but it predicted a 14.6 @ 97 MPH quarter mile out of a
stock RWD Dodge Magnum.

Again, this is very unscientific, and making a lot of assumptions, but I
would believe it, on a good day, it could do that.

Still, a very sharp looking car!

Thanks!
Wicked96SS
 

Well, I drove one yesterday. And, counting me, there were four people in it.
It felt good. I think my GC would give it some competetion up to about 50.
Just out of curiosity, I asked them how much to trade. My GC is an '04
Limited with 3K miles on it, has all of the options except GPS and
window-stickered for close to $39K. The RT had a window sticker of $33K
even. Are you ready??! They'd "put me in it" for a mere $10K difference!!!!



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"Jack Carter" <net> wrote in message
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| Well, I drove one yesterday. And, counting me, there were four people in it.
| It felt good. I think my GC would give it some competetion up to about 50.
| Just out of curiosity, I asked them how much to trade. My GC is an '04
| Limited with 3K miles on it, has all of the options except GPS and
| window-stickered for close to $39K. The RT had a window sticker of $33K
| even. Are you ready??! They'd "put me in it" for a mere $10K difference!!!!
|
|
|
| "Wicked96SS" <ORG> wrote in message
| news:wicked96ss.com...
| >
| > On Thu, 21 Oct 2004, Jack Carter wrote:
| >
| > > I used to do a LOT of drag racing myself at local strips. One of the
| road
| > > tests I recently read for the RT quoted a 0-60 time of 7.1 seconds. (The
| > > writer said it seemed "sluggish" coming off the line and that there were
| > > times when it didn't feel like it had 340hp.) But I just got a Road &
| Track
| > > that says 6.1. Don't know who to believe. I'm going to drive one this
| > > afternoon so I'll have a better idea of how it might run after that.
| >
| > What source do you have for the 7.1 second 0-60? I would really like to
| > read about that. Every review I have read online have put the 0-60 from
| > 6.0 to 6.3, but nothing slower. Granted I have only read a dozen or so
| > reviews.
| >
| > I have gotten some good data about the torque curve of the engine as well
| > as the gear ratios in the transmission, and have run some numbers using
| > Desktop Dyno and Desktop Dragstrip and it gave similar results as to what
| > the reviews I have read said. Of course, I don't have all the variables,
| > and the software has a tendancy to be a bit "optimistic" if you don't know
| > how to set it up... but it predicted a 14.6 @ 97 MPH quarter mile out of a
| > stock RWD Dodge Magnum.
| >
| > Again, this is very unscientific, and making a lot of assumptions, but I
| > would believe it, on a good day, it could do that.
| >
| > Still, a very sharp looking car!
| >
| > Thanks!
| > Wicked96SS
| >
| > > "Wicked96SS" <ORG> wrote in message
| > > news:wicked96ss.com...
| > > > On Wed, 20 Oct 2004, Jack Carter wrote:
| > > >
| > > > > I don't know where you got your GC weight figure but it sounds far
| too
| > > high!
| > > > > I have an '04 GC with the HO V8 and have tested it several times
| with a
| > > > > G-Tech Pro performance meter. It breaks seven seconds from 0-60
| > > > > consistently. The GC seems to have a very high RPM stall torque
| > > converter
| > > > > and, as a result, really flies off the line. I'm getting faster
| times
| > > from
| > > > > my '04 that the 5.7 liter 98 that I used to have.
| > > >
| > > > It may sound high, but I saw that figure on several websites, and
| Edmunds
| > > > has the vehicle listed at 6100 pounds.
| > > >
| > > > As for sub 7 second 0-60, that is impressive for an SUV! But I have
| also
| > > > read several
| > > > instances whre 0-60's in the Dodge Magnum RT were 6.1 seconds, with a
| 14.6
| > > > second quarter mile. As a drag racer, to put it in perspective, at
| those
| > > > times and speeds, .9 seconds difference (assuming that the Jeep could
| keep
| > > > up) is about 9 car lengths, substancially faster.
| > > >
| > > > Again, I would really like to see some actual numbers, and not just
| > > > guessing on what the AWD RT would do... I have a feeling it would be
| > > > slightly faster than the Jeep.... although I don't have any facts to
| back
| > > > this up.
| > > >
| > > > Thanks!
| > > >
| > > >
| > > > >
| > > > >
| > > > >
| > > > > "Wicked96SS" <ORG> wrote in message
| > > > > news:wicked96ss.com...
| > > > > >
| > > > > > On Wed, 20 Oct 2004, Jack Carter wrote:
| > > > > >
| > > > > > > From what I've read, anyone who owns an 04 Grand Cherokee with
| the
| > > HO V8
| > > > > > > (AWD) probably won't take a back seat to an RT AWD in a 0-60
| run.
| > > > > > >
| > > > > > >
| > > > > > > "Wicked96SS" <ORG> wrote in message
| > > > > > >
| news:wicked96ss.com...
| > > > > > > >
| > > > > > > > Does anybody know what the performance numbers are for the RT
| AWD?
| > > I
| > > > > have
| > > > > > > > found several sources for the RWD version, but I am interested
| in
| > > the
| > > > > AWD
| > > > > > > > version, and thought there might (probably) be some parasitic
| loss
| > > > > from
| > > > > > > > the AWD system.
| > > > > > > >
| > > > > > > > Either way, if anybody has some 0-60 or 1/4mile times and
| speeds,
| > > it
| > > > > would
| > > > > > > > be greatly appreciated.
| > > > > > > >
| > > > > > > > Thanks!
| > > > > > > > Wicked96SS
| > > > > >
| > > > > > Do you have any numbers to back that up? I did a little research,
| and
| > > the
| > > > > > Magnum as a higher rear end ratio, more power, more torque, and
| weighs
| > > > > > less... I woudl assume that even the AWD version would be
| considerably
| > > > > > faster than the Grand Cherokee...
| > > > > >
| > > > > > Grand Cherokee:
| > > > > > HP: 265 @ 5100 RPMs
| > > > > > TQ: 325 @ 3600 RPMs
| > > > > > WEIGHT: 5150 lbs.
| > > > > >
| > > > > > Dodge Magnum:
| > > > > > HP: 340 @ 5000 RPMs
| > > > > > TQ: 390 @ 4000 RPMs
| > > > > > WEIGHT: 4393 lbs.
| > > > > >
| > > > > > Just curious!
| > > > > >
| > > > > > Thanks!
| > > > > >
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