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Mazda Miata: 1991 miata shimmy

  1. #1
    J.
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    1991 miata shimmy

    I just recently acquired the subject Miata, it had has been setting under a
    cover uncranked for 6+- years, after making many minor repairs, the car
    checks out fine with one exception, there is shimmy or bounce around 65 MPH,
    seems to be in the rear. We had to replace the tires which were computer
    balanced when installed, I first thought all they needed was high speed
    balancing , after $50 for the balancing there wasn't any improvement, OK,
    next I replace the shocks thinking this has to be the problem but still no
    improvement , the sensation of a tire being out of balance is still present
    in the rear. The car has only 38000 miles and in a excellent maintained
    condition.
    Has anyone else encountered a similar problem ? I would appreciate any input
    that might helpful in resolving my dilemma.
    Thanks in advance,
    Frank




  2. #2
    Iva
    Guest

    Re: 1991 miata shimmy

    J. Frank Freeman wrote: 
    setting under a 
    the car 
    around 65 MPH, 
    computer 
    high speed 
    improvement, OK, 
    but still no 
    still present 
    maintained 
    appreciate any input 

    Congratulations on joining the Miata family! Get over to
    www.miata.net and be prepared to spend *lots* of time there.

    The older Miatae are known to have a shimmy at 65 mph. It's a
    combination of things which can be helped with changing the sway
    bars, having all four wheels aligned and installing a front shock
    brace. My '90 did it. I've done all of the above except adding
    the shock brace and that's sitting in the garage waiting for a
    few spare moments to get installed.

    See Lanny's site for alignment specs:
    http://www.hummingbirds.net/alignment.html

    And be prepared to spend lot of money on sunscreen. ;-D

    Iva & Belle.)
    '90B Classic Red.)
    #3 winkin' Miata



  3. #3
    Mike
    Guest

    Re: 1991 miata shimmy

    Lower the tire pressure to 28 psi all the way around and see it that helps.
    The one time my 91A had the shimmy was when all 4 tires had very different
    tire pressures.

    "J. Frank Freeman" <com> wrote in message
    news:dGmrc.281$usenetserver.com... 

    MPH, 
    present 
    input 



  4. #4
    Leon
    Guest

    Re: 1991 miata shimmy

    "J. Frank Freeman" <com> wrote:

    ]I just recently acquired the subject Miata, it had has been setting under a
    ]cover uncranked for 6+- years, after making many minor repairs, the car
    ]checks out fine with one exception, there is shimmy or bounce around 65 MPH,
    ]seems to be in the rear. We had to replace the tires which were computer
    ]balanced when installed, I first thought all they needed was high speed
    ]balancing , after $50 for the balancing there wasn't any improvement, OK,
    ]next I replace the shocks thinking this has to be the problem but still no
    ]improvement , the sensation of a tire being out of balance is still present
    ]in the rear. The car has only 38000 miles and in a excellent maintained
    ]condition.
    ]Has anyone else encountered a similar problem ? I would appreciate any input
    ]that might helpful in resolving my dilemma.

    Do I understand that you replaced all 4 tires after the 6 year
    storage?

    And that all 4 wheels were then high-speed balanced?

    Leon

    --
    Leon van Dommelen Bozo, the White 96 Sebring Miata .)
    To reply to me, the word Miata must be in the subject.
    EXIT THE INTERSTATES (Jamie Jensen)

  5. #5
    Lanny
    Guest

    Re: 1991 miata shimmy

    In article <dGmrc.281$usenetserver.com>,
    "J. Frank Freeman" <com> wrote:
     

    First thing to do is remount all the wheels, tightening the lugs
    progressively in the correct sequence with a torque wrench. If you have
    wheel locks, get rid of them.

    If the shimmy persists, then either they weren't balanced properly, one
    of the new tires is out of round, or you have a bent wheel. The balancer
    must be set to its maximum sensitivity. Here's another clue: if the
    shop's smallest weights are larger than 1/8 ounce, they aren't equipped
    to balance Miata wheels.

    While alignment and bracing are good things for other reasons, they
    don't affect wheel balance or concentricity, which are the only causes
    of shimmy. All the other things will do is shift the resonant frequency
    of the chassis, so it shimmies at a different speed.

    --
    Lanny Chambers, St. Louis, USA
    '94C
    the alignment page:
    http://www.hummingbirds.net/alignment.html

  6. #6
    Dave
    Guest

    Re: 1991 miata shimmy

    On Fri, 21 May 2004 16:24:41 GMT, Lanny Chambers <net>
    wrote in news:news.prodigy.com:
     
    [chop]
     

    [chop]

    To reinforce Lanny's point: I had new tires installed a while back
    and had the shimmy even though I had them 'properly' balanced.
    I had them try twice with no luck. So I went to another shop
    and insisted that they be very precise. They even partly sneered
    when I made them use the smallest weights, implying that I was
    being ridiculously anal. But the shimmy was gone.


  7. #7
    Dave
    Guest

    Re: 1991 miata shimmy

    In article <dGmrc.281$usenetserver.com>,
    com says... 

    Frank, I have a '90 with ~160K miles on it, but I've never had a shimmy.

    On my OTHER car, however, I get a nice shimmy around 65.

    Why? The frame is bent.

    Has the Miata ever been in an accident?

  8. #8
    J.
    Guest

    Re: 1991 miata shimmy

    That was one of the first things I did after the guy who installed the tires
    had 38psi.
    Frank
    "Mike" <comedy> wrote in message
    newsYnrc.13683$rdc-kc.rr.com... 
    helps. 
    under 
    OK, 
    no 




  9. #9
    J.
    Guest

    Re: 1991 miata shimmy

    Yes, I installed four new tires because after sitting for such a long period
    it would shake you out of the car.
    Frank
    "Leon van Dommelen" <net> wrote in message
    news:com... 

    MPH, 
    no 
    present 
    input 




  10. #10
    J.
    Guest

    Re: 1991 miata shimmy

    No , belonged to my brother who bought it new.
    Frank
    "Dave Christian" <rr.com> wrote in message
    news:cfl.rr.com... 
    under a 
    MPH, 
    OK, 
    no 
    present 
    input 





 

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