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Toyota Trucks: '03 Tundra Fog Lites....?

  1. #1
    Raksashan
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    '03 Tundra Fog Lites....?

    Just out of curiosity I ask this question:

    It is my understanding that fog lites are designed to be used when there is
    fog to prevent your headlites from being reflected back at you (and hence
    blinding you). Now, this being said, every other vehicle fog lites come on
    either when the switch is turned on or when turned on WITH the parking
    lites... But on my '03 Tundra, my regular headlites need to be on for the
    foglites to come on (and they go off when i turn on the highbeams, but I
    expected that). Has anyone else experienced this or am I alone?

    I hope I'm alone on this one, because the set-up doesn't make sense given
    what I thought foglites were for...

    --

    -Raksashan



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    Rich
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    Re: '03 Tundra Fog Lites....?

    On Tue, 13 Jan 2004 21:14:33 -0900, "Raksashan"
    <org> wrote:
     

    That is both normal and legal. My '90 Geo Storm was the same way.
    Many vehicles are modified to operate differently, and most
    aftermarket systems are not installed to operate "legally".

    Fog and driving lights shall NEVER be used without your low-beams.
    The low-beam headlight has a low-level cutoff and will not reflect
    back. The fog beams offer a much more broad coverage in front of the
    vehicle, but their actual use is more for BEING SEEN than in improving
    what you can see.

    I do like running mine because they provide a better view of the side
    of the road when it is very dark.



    --- Rich
    http://richlockyer.tripod.com/

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    Bruce
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    Re: '03 Tundra Fog Lites....?

    On Tue, 13 Jan 2004 21:14:33 -0900, "Raksashan"
    <org> wrote:
     

    Low beam headlights have an optical cutoff to keep the light down on
    the road, rather than up where the fog would make it bounce back at
    you, so they really don't cause a whole lot of glare.

    Your Tundra is wired from the factory to meet most US states'
    Vehicle Codes, which require them to be on with (not instead of) the
    low beams.

    Go read the legalese yourself:
    http://www.dmv.ca.gov/pubs/vctop/d12/vc24403.htm
    And if you get the urge to add fog taillights, there's
    http://www.dmv.ca.gov/pubs/vctop/d12/vc24602.htm

    The idea is not to save you from any and all glare, but to stop
    morons from driving around with only their parking and fog lights on
    "because it really looks cool" - in real foggy conditions, it's too
    easy for other oncoming traffic to not realize that the object without
    the white headlights on is really a moving car (not just parked with
    the parking lights on) and drive into their path.

    And before you say it, I'm not sure how many states have these
    rules, but I'm pretty sure it's widespread. It's easier for Toyota to
    just follow the most restrictive, and sell the same car in all 50
    States.

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    MDT
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    Re: '03 Tundra Fog Lites....?

    Raksashan wrote:
     


    No, they come on with headlamps in low beam, unless it was installed a
    DIY'r.

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    Raksashan
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    Re: '03 Tundra Fog Lites....? THANKS FOR THE INFO!

    > Raksashan wrote: 
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    Rich
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    Re: '03 Tundra Fog Lites....?

    On Thu, 15 Jan 2004 02:38:25 GMT, MDT Tech® <com>
    wrote:
     

    Or a certain modified '03 Tundra



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    Dave
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    Re: '03 Tundra Fog Lites....? THANKS FOR THE INFO!

    All of the cars that I've owned need the headlights to be on for the
    fogs to operate. It isn't a glich, that is just the way that they do
    it.
    It is mainly your high beems that reflect back atcha.

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    fastone
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    Re: '03 Tundra Fog Lites....?

    I have a 2000 Quad V8 and it does what you are describing. Talk to Toyota
    about I and they said this is by design and mandated by law for automobiles
    with foglites to turn off when the high beam are on. Does not make any sense
    but I am fine with it.


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  9. #9
    Rich
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    Re: '03 Tundra Fog Lites....?

    On Thu, 22 Jan 2004 08:01:38 GMT, "fastone" <com>
    wrote:
     

    Maximum allowable wattage displayed in the forward direction.

    Same reason that offroad lights must be covered or pointed down when
    on the highway.



    --- Rich
    http://richlockyer.tripod.com/

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    WRH
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    Re: '03 Tundra Fog Lites....?

    This law goes back to the days of quad headlights. If someone turned his
    high beams on and his driving/fog lamps, you had 6 bulbs blinding on-coming
    traffic.
    Nowadays, when you turn you high beams on, the low beams stay on, so to make
    it legal, the driving/fog lamps are disabled.
    --
    Bill
    Chesapeake, Va


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