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  1. #1
    Eldon
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    02 GrandAm brake rotors

    Why do the front brake rotors have oversized holes in them......I would
    think that it wouldn't be good for them to be able to move between the
    axle hub and wheel. Could this be the reason I need to have the brakes
    turned every time I switch back from my steel snow wheels??


  2. #2
    Steve
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    Re: 02 GrandAm brake rotors

    Do you mean oversized holes where the studs go through, or the centre hole
    is oversized? The centre hole should not be, but the holes for the studs
    should....and no, it doesn't matter. As long as the rotor, hub, and wheel
    are clean when they are installed, the clamping pressure from the five lug
    nuts will be more than sufficient to hold the brake rotor in place.

    T = KDP

    1200in*lbs = (.20)(.5")P
    P=12,000lbs/lug nut

    P = 12,000lbs*5 lug nuts = 60,000lbs clamping force

    Steve

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    Tj
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    Re: 02 GrandAm brake rotors

    Are they over torqueing when switching wheels?

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    Robert
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    Re: 02 GrandAm brake rotors

    That would be my suspicion as well - problems often seem to result from this
    on these cars, if they are gunning the lug nuts on with an air gun without
    regard for torque, the rotors can warp when they heat up.

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    Steve
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    Re: 02 GrandAm brake rotors

    Especially if there is dirt/rust on the rotor/hub/wheel and if they do not
    tighten the lug nuts in the roper order.

    Steve

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    Marc
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    Re: 02 GrandAm brake rotors

    Robert Hancock wrote: 

    Do you know what the torque specs might be?

    My g/f's Alero is notorious for warping rotors at the rate of an oil-change.


    -marc

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    Robert
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    Re: 02 GrandAm brake rotors

    100 foot-pounds. They're also supposed to be tightened in a star pattern.

    My guess would be that uneven torque on the lug nuts would be even worse
    than overtorquing..

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  8. #8
    Marc
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    Re: 02 GrandAm brake rotors

    Robert Hancock wrote: 

    Cool, that's about what I guessed. Last time I had the wheels off,
    I just cranked them on "fairly" tight... definitely in a cris-cross
    star pattern. I didn't think the torque mattered that much.

    I'll be sure to pull out the torque wrench when I get the rotors
    turned.

    Thanks,
    -marc

  9. #9
    GMdude
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    Re: 02 GrandAm brake rotors

    At the dealerships these days, they use torque sticks. It's an attachment
    that goes onto an impact gun. The gun will jump when the proper torque has
    been achieved. And,... it will go no farther.

    If you don't torque the lugs evenly, your rotor can warp.

    Just because you saw them use an impact gun, when they tightened the lugs,
    it doesn't mean that they did it wrong. If you see a 6" to 8" extension on
    the gun, they are doing it correctly.

    GMdude.

    P.S. Unless you purchase a torque stick for your impact at home. You should
    use a torque wrench to tighten your lug nuts.



  10. #10
    Rich
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    Re: 02 GrandAm brake rotors

    I always use a torque wrench on my lug nuts and I tighten them in steps
    (25, 50, 75, 100 ft lbs) in a criscross pattern. I've only had one pair
    of rotors warp and those were turned prior to it happening so I'm
    guessing that they ended up being too thin.



 

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