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Toyota: 02 Echo Amazing Fuel Economy Story

  1. #1
    styx
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    02 Echo Amazing Fuel Economy Story

    For any potential Echo owners or would be purchasers...Toyota Echo
    Fuel Economy is Astonishingly strong!!!

    I'd just like to report that as long as I have been keeping a
    meticulous economy log on my 02 echo sedan, (now broken in with about
    38 000 k) the city economy has far exceeded the 42 mpg suggested
    (Imperial gallon, in Canada). With the 5th gear I have been averaging
    51-52 mpg (5.5 L/100km) in the city, up about 3 or 4 mpg from last
    October in 2002 when this car had 17 000 km. Mind you this is only in
    summer. Winter scores go down to 40 or 41 mpg or less in the arctic
    cold.

    Not surprisingly, this year I decided to take it on a family trip to
    Jasper. On the climb (with wind resistance and luggage + wife and 2
    kids) I saw the fuel economy only marginally up (53 mpg). We had to go
    up some very steep and windy old mountain roads and traverse hair pin
    turns at some old highway tourist treks.

    However what came next is quite amazing.

    On the way home, I and my wife took turns driving. I told my wife to
    hold speeds at about 90-95 kilometers per hour- and NO FASTER after a
    fresh fuel fill of regular low octane Esso fuel from the day before
    (we were at a resort south of Jasper... about 55km away so started off
    with roughly 110 km on the tripometer I set for fill ups (ODO trip
    "A") after a brief stop in Jasper for coffee.

    We had quite a few hills in the descent to Edmonton, and the wind was
    behind us. After a "tank top up" in Stony Plain, the ODO meter "A"
    read 443.3 km travelled on this tank. To my surprise I found it
    required only 17.448 Liters of fuel for a complete fill. I usually
    pull the nozzel trigger two full times until the pressure clicks it,
    ensuring it's full.

    After plugging this into my economy calculator, this turned out to be
    an astonishing 71.72 mpg (3.9 L/100 km).

    Conclusion: This car is amazingly economical, surpassing my own
    expectations, largely due in part to it's lines based on the Prius,
    and engine engineered for maximum economy. This has been my best
    vehicle for economy by a long shot, though a litle noisy on the
    highway (I use ear plugs).

    Question:
    Has anyone else ever recorded heightened economy scores on the Toyota
    Echo like this or with other Toyotas? (E.g. 03 Corolla?)

    cc

  2. #2
    Philip®
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    Re: 02 Echo Amazing Fuel Economy Story

    styx wrote: 

    17.448 liters comes to 3.83 Imperial gallons.
    443.3 km = 275.4 miles. 71.9 Imperial Miles Per Gallon.

    For us US drivers, thats 1.2 Imperial gallons to 1 US gallon ...
    17.448 liter = 4.6 US gallons ... 59.86 US mpg. Whew! My suspicions
    suggest you did not really fill the tank in spite of honest efforts
    to do so. ;-)
     

    The absolute best US mpg I have recorded on my '03 Corolla is 40.8.
    I was not trying hard to get top fuel mileage (kept speed under 75
    mph). This was on California's oxygenated gasoline which is known
    for reducing MPG. Life is too short to get my panties in a knot over
    fuel mileage. Get a moped if that's your life's big concern.
    --

    ~~Philip

    "Never let school interfere
    with your education - Mark Twain"






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    Rich
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    Re: 02 Echo Amazing Fuel Economy Story

    On Tue, 26 Aug 2003 06:20:01 GMT, "Philip®" <net>
    wrote:
     

    Excellent point. My wife gave me hell over my Tundra the first time I
    put $50 into it (last time prices jumped)... she can't understand that
    there's a difference between the 17 gallon tank that I had and the 26
    gallon tank that I have. The Tundra mileage is not as good as the '94
    with the 22RE, but even with current gas prices, I'm still looking at
    fuel costs of under $0.12/mile, where the '94 would have been $0.09 or
    $0.10.



    --- Rich
    http://richlockyer.tripod.com/

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    Philip®
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    Re: 02 Echo Amazing Fuel Economy Story

    Rich Lockyer wrote: 

    Oh ... my ... God! Were you not getting an acceptable trade off
    (and you are), I can see where your wife might remind you incessantly
    that you are using nearly 25% more fuel! But let me tell you ... a
    LOT of people are penny wise and pound foolish. I am talking about
    the people who buy some super economy car for $22,000 bucks that gets
    50 mpg just for bragging rights. Real financial economy would have
    been to buy a $10,000 car, leaving you the balance to buy fuel and
    oil for a number of years!. But in making a financially sensible
    purchase, there would be no MPG bragging rights nor would there be a
    social statement like "See, I'm setting an enlightened example for
    the world to follow!".
    --

    ~~Philip

    "Never let school interfere
    with your education - Mark Twain"







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    Michelle
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    Re: 02 Echo Amazing Fuel Economy Story

    com (styx) wrote in message news:<google.com>... 

    for your l/km -> mpg calculations, are you using Imperial gallons, or
    the smaller gallons used in the US?

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    Tom
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    Re: 02 Echo Amazing Fuel Economy Story




    In my last calculated loop from 8,000 miles to 12,800 miles I turned 49.17
    mpg US gallon, with city driving.

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    MikeHunt@lycos.com
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    Re: 02 Echo Amazing Fuel Economy Story

    Why not? There are many larger heavy cars with V6 engines and
    automatic trannys that can get over 30 and bigger 4cy engines in
    cars bigger than the Echo, like the Corolla or Focus that can get
    over 35. Why would a midget car with a midget engine not get 50?
    They only problem is you place your life in your hands avery time
    you drive in it, just to get 20 MPG more. Hardly worth it in my
    opinion.



    mike hunt



    gold wrote: 

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    Scott
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    Re: 02 Echo Amazing Fuel Economy Story

    On Tue, 26 Aug 2003 21:57:51 GMT, com wrote:
     
    Mike

    Again you show your ignorance.

    If I rememeber correctly, YOU have a fockin PINTO. Now getting in
    that piece of shit is placing your life in your hands EVERY time you
    get into it. A bomb ready to explodef.

    If Natalie dosen't get in this and *fwap* you, I will...



    Scott in Florida

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    Bhuvan
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    Re: 02 Echo Amazing Fuel Economy Story


    "Philip®" <net> wrote in message
    news:l_C2b.3452$news.pas.earthlink.net... 

    Thanks for the clarification, Philip! I was wondering HOW they were able to
    achieve remarkable mileage, when the best we've gotten with the '01 Echo is
    about 46 mpg.

    ~Bhuvan



  10. #10
    Larry
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    Re: 02 Echo Amazing Fuel Economy Story

    "Tom Hamilton" <net> wrote:
     

    So why is our 2000 Echo getting just under 30mpg?


 
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